Trinsic Council Meeting Four

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Annunzio: Greetings all!

Nynaeve: Greetings, Beautiful Lady Alec Leonhart: Evening m'lord and m'lady Nynaeve: So..am I a man or a bird?

Sir Robert: Or she greeted me exclusively

Savhanna: ahhh you are the flower

Sir Robert: Hehe

Nynaeve: Oh...you know how to flatter, M'Lady...it's one of the many things that make you a joy to know

Savhanna: *grins*

Nynaeve: *looks down at Annunzio and pouts*

Annunzio: *waves*

Nynaeve: What are you doing all the way down there?

Annunzio: Waiting to be asked

Annunzio: *waits*

Nynaeve: Please come and keep me company, Sir

Annunzio: Well sure!

Nynaeve: *impish grin*

Annunzio: When you put it that way...

Nynaeve: Thank you..I'm in your debt

Sir Robert: On the cue of asked.. have ye seen those Surveys this guy plans to make on the boards?

Annunzio: On what boards?

Sir Robert: TWP/ooc board

Savhanna: yeah i saw and refuse to take part

Annunzio: Oh, what is this?

Sir Robert: I think its not bad.

Savhanna: " whose your bestest bestest frined"

Savhanna: *laughs*

Alec Leonhart: Aye I saw them he kind of got ticked when everyone was answering them on the board Alec Leonhart: and not emailing them to him

Sir Robert: Yeah.. Bet he is a bit miffed as well..

Sir Robert: But! I saw him, or someone else with his name running around in game.

Alec Leonhart: afk for a mintute

Savhanna: Sylver is on his way

Savhanna: caught up in patches

Savhanna: *laughs*

Sir Robert: Using 3D I have to say, those patches are worth the waiting time.

Nynaeve: [I hope he doesn't run 3d..it will be christmas when he gets on]

Sir Robert: [or 5 minutes on cable modem]

Nynaeve: *grin*

Savhanna: I should try 3d on this new pc and see if it runs any better

Alec Leonhart: sorry back[laundry..hehe]

Nynaeve: *snatches the shroud code from Robert's fingers*

Sir Robert: Aaww..

Sir Robert: *bawls*

Sir Robert: I thought its the groom and bride who get the gifts..

Annunzio: Greetings

Sylver: Greetings everyone

Nynaeve: They also give.

Nynaeve: Sylver!!!!!

Alec Leonhart: Greetings

Savhanna: welcome

Sir Robert: Hail Sylver

Nynaeve: Good to see you, Handsome

Savhanna: Is Martin coming?

Sir Robert: I'm afraid no martin tonight.

Alec Leonhart: Greetings m'lord Talon Skyfire: Evening friends

Annunzio: Hail Sir!

Talon Skyfire: Seat taken?

Sir Robert: Greetings Lord Talon

Sylver: Hail Talon

Talon Skyfire: *smiles*

Nynaeve: Greetings, Sir

Talon Skyfire: Good to see you all

Savhanna: greetings

Annunzio: Hmm, so if Martin isn't here

Nynaeve: Your in charge!

Annunzio: Maybe we should just begin the meeting

Annunzio: Hehe

Annunzio: Well, I do have one thing to say

Annunzio: Though it be not terribly much

Annunzio: But I would like to propose a census

Annunzio: Of all citizens of Trinsic

Annunzio: And those eligible to vote for elected leaders

Annunzio: We have done this before, just not lately

Annunzio: And we actually have a section of the website

Annunzio: Where citizens can register

Annunzio: And put up a small webpage about themselves

Sir Robert: *is glad to have a non-voteable-on title*

Annunzio: Though it is hardly used of late

Annunzio: Anyway, does anyone have any thoughts about a census?

Sir Robert: We just have to make sure that is not misused.

Annunzio: How so?

Nynaeve: Interesting idea...definately

Sir Robert: Making sure that just people of Trinsic vote and so son.

Annunzio: Well

Annunzio: I'm not asking for an election, just a census

Annunzio: Then if we have an election, we will know who is eligible

Annunzio: By who registered

Sir Robert: ahh..

Sir Robert: *nods*

Nynaeve: *leans back...fingers drawing circles on her flat belly as she listens*

Annunzio: But there is no way I can think of to really prevent people from registering

Savhanna: might also give us a list to use as a call to armss

Sir Robert: [ooc: Trinsic based characters, or players with Trin based chars?]

Annunzio: Somewhere we have a set of rules on who is a citizen and who not

Annunzio: I will look it up now

Annunzio: In the meantime, amuse yourselves with this question:

Annunzio: What happens when a dwarf gets gigantism?

Savhanna: PAIN

Sir Robert: We call him then Theo

Nynaeve: They start to write poetry about limestone?

Annunzio: *searches through records*

Sylver: *scratch his head*

Alec Leonhart: *thinks* Talon Skyfire: They explode

Sir Robert: *pretends to think*

Savhanna: ggrrrr growing pains

Annunzio: Ok, got it!

Annunzio: Our Requirements for Citizenship are as follows:

Annunzio: You must meet one of the following criteria:

Annunzio: was born in Trinsic

Talon Skyfire: *cheers*

Annunzio: own housing in the greater Trinsic area

Annunzio: is a member of a Trinsic-based guild

Annunzio: consider yourself loyal to the city of Trinsic.

Annunzio: also:

Annunzio: You must have a valid email address.

Annunzio: You must not already be registered as a citizen of another City.

Annunzio: That is all

Sir Robert: At least I fit into a few of them.

Savhanna: npc city or guild city

Talon Skyfire: I was born here Talon Skyfire: *grins and stretches*

Annunzio: A good question

Nynaeve: Do you have to meet all the requirements or just one?

Sir Robert: I was born in Britain, but have my house here...

Annunzio: Just one of the first ones

Annunzio: But keep in mind, we can change the rules if we wish

Annunzio: They are not set in stone

Annunzio: Now, if anyone is interested, we also have

Nynaeve: my houses are in Brit and Minoc but I own half of a house in Trinsic fel

Savhanna: born in brit but house here and part of a trini guild, but our trini guild has its own village

Annunzio: A precise definition of the greater Trinsic area

Annunzio: The northern border is described by the river which meets the coast at 40o 4'S 16o 27'E and en

Annunzio: ends at 81o 49'S 7o 14'E.

Annunzio: The borderline extends east from the endpoint of the river,

Sir Robert: In other words.. gazer river

Annunzio: to the corner of the Destard mountains at 83o 13'S 1o 7'W.

Annunzio: On the West side of the Destard mountain range, the boarder is considered to run along the area

Annunzio: forest, from 104o 35'S 6o 53'E at the mountains to 104o 35'S 0o 42'E at the coast.

Annunzio: The southern, eastern, and western boarders of Trinsic's territory of responsibility is the coastline.

Annunzio: Also, the four islands and one islet north of the Trinsic swamps are considered to be in Trinsic's

Annunzio: territory of responsibility

Sir Robert: If ye want.. I could cut out part of a map, and mark the Greater Trinsic area..

Annunzio: Aah, that would be wonderful

Sir Robert: Gives me reason to play with Photoshop again.

Annunzio: I'll icq you the link to the page with this info

Savhanna: *laughs*

Annunzio: As I remember it

Annunzio: There was some debate before about the last provision

Annunzio: That you shouldn't be a citizen of another town

Annunzio: So it's something we may want to consider again

Sir Robert: I would suggest it would depends on the city.

Annunzio: How so?

Sir Robert: Like Spiritwood village.. or Elysium those should be permitted.

Annunzio: But not members of the Britain council?

Sir Robert: I think not.. not if they are voting members there.. no

Annunzio: But why is there a distinction?

Sir Robert: distinction between waht?

Annunzio: Player towns and npc towns?

Annunzio: *just playing devil's advocate*

Nynaeve: Well how many towns should someone be able to vote in?

Sir Robert: I would say.. Spiritwood village and Elysium can be part of Trinsic.

Sir Robert: like suburbs, etc.

Annunzio: That's a good point

Sir Robert: They are, in the Trinsic area.

Sir Robert: and we are the Trinsic Council of Honor, for that area, not just for the town, right?

Annunzio: So we could say, a citizen of a town outside of our area?

Savhanna: Sylver, we live in the burbs!

Sylver: *nods*

Annunzio: Hehe

Sylver: *smiles*

Sir Robert: A citizen of the Trinsic Area.

Annunzio: Hmm, does that sound good to everyone?

Sir Robert: *listens to the snores*

Annunzio: *smile*

Annunzio: Comeon, everyone loves a long discussion about procedure

Savhanna: *nudges Sylver*

Alec Leonhart: sounds good me but I feel I dont have a say in matters I am just a guest. :)

Annunzio: That's quite alright, it is good to get insight from everyone

Nynaeve: Could we grandfather citizens?

Savhanna: Sylver has our vote here I am just decoration

Sir Robert: Yer welcome to utter yer words.. Its just yer not a voting member, thats all.

Sir Robert: Just if ye refresh the citizen every 3 days, Ny.

Annunzio: What do you mean grandfather?

Nynaeve: Never mind...just found out something that makes that moot..sorry

Annunzio: Ok

Nynaeve: I was just thinking what would happen if one of the member guilds ended up taking over another

Annunzio: Well, I'll ask Martin what he thinks

Nynaeve: city...that's all

Annunzio: Oh I see

Savhanna: hehehee

Talon Skyfire: We'll be setting up a town in Malas Talon Skyfire: But still plan on being active in Trinsic

Annunzio: I think that is fine as long

Annunzio: As you still consider yourselves to be citizens of the town

Sir Robert: Same with KOs, making something like a "daughter-village" in Malas.. I stay in the duchy.

Annunzio: We can't always choose what our hose is

Annunzio: house even

Talon Skyfire: I was born here, my entire family and background is tied into Trinsic

Annunzio: Yes, it is more of a spiritual thing

Annunzio: Where you feel at home

Talon Skyfire: Aye

Annunzio: At least that's how I see it

Talon Skyfire: Anuunzio and Martin are probably the only ones who remember Talon Skyfire: But I served on this Council shortly after its founding

Nynaeve: But you wait..if we have a vote on something important everyone and thier dog will have a

Annunzio: *smiles*

Nynaeve: spiritual feeling about Trinsic

Annunzio: Nyn, this is just for the citizen census

Sir Robert: ye also have to show a physical responsibility to it.

Annunzio: They can vote for the Mayor

Annunzio: But they don't vote on every issue

Annunzio: We are a representitive democracy as it were

Savhanna: and is it players or characters and how would we know in all cases if it is the former?

Annunzio: I think we have no choice but to trust people

Sir Robert: I would say.. Character.

Annunzio: And disallow votes only if they are very suspect

Sylver : rejoined the party.

Nynaeve: *kicks Sylver awake under the table*

Sir Robert: Hail Regent

Huma Dragonbane: Evening... Talon Skyfire: Evening my friend

Nynaeve: greeteings, Huma

Sylver: Greetings Huma

Savhanna: Greetings Huma

Savhanna: no stealing my pillow, Sir

Nynaeve: Have a seat, Sir, no need to loom

Annunzio: Hail Sir!

Huma Dragonbane: I'm fine standing

Annunzio: It is good to see you here

Savhanna: if you need to address us feel free, the floor seems open

Nynaeve: *mutters something about speak for yourself..and glares at Huma*

Savhanna: *kicks Nynaeve under the table*

Huma Dragonbane: How far is Ncr willing to go to show that they are for this council?

Nynaeve: That wouldn't be your business, Sir, but the counsels business.

Annunzio: I must say sir that I was skeptical

Annunzio: But they have been worthy contributors to this date

Huma Dragonbane: And if OES attacked Trinsic....where would they stand?

Annunzio: They have agreed to abide by our rules

Magefire: lol i forgot

Nynaeve: We have sworn to protect fellow guild members against attack

Huma Dragonbane: this is not a guild...it is a council and a city

Sylver: Greetings Magefire

Nynaeve: but we are just a bunch of doctors...

Nynaeve: healers...

Huma Dragonbane: HAH! Magefire: hi

Nynaeve: there is a limit to what we can do offensively

Huma Dragonbane: I've seen first hand your "healing" Huma Dragonbane: I've been inside your tower Huma Dragonbane: you dodge my questions Magefire: what did i miss? besides the fact that the old coot isnt here again =] Huma Dragonbane: What would Ncr do, if Trinsic came under attack from OES?

Nynaeve: Many have..and owe their life to my Master...just ask Sir Robert

Huma Dragonbane: Owe their lives? you might have saved some for your own purposes Huma Dragonbane: along the line Huma Dragonbane: but you've hurt far more

Nynaeve: I would like to know one person I have hurt, Sir

Sir Robert: Arcana's mother was rescued from the skeletal dragon, by the aid of Lord Smogg

Huma Dragonbane: *smirks* Huma Dragonbane: Why Ncr has hurt me

Nynaeve: or did it escape your notices your talking to a person

Sir Robert: The NCR has been a valuable part of the TCoH.

Magefire: *puts feet up and falls asleep*

Sir Robert: Or rahter.. is a valuable part.

Nynaeve: Not since I have been in the guild, they have not, Sir...I can't speak for history.

Huma Dragonbane: Then I suggest you learn your cult's policy Huma Dragonbane: On this council or not Huma Dragonbane: if you side with OES in anything an I catch wind of it Magefire: *thinks about "throwing weight around"* Huma Dragonbane: My men will beat down your doors

Annunzio: We have had our differences with the Cult in the past

Magefire: if u side with oes ill send every beast in britannia with them

Annunzio: But we thought it better to rehabilitate them

Talon Skyfire: *leans back in his chair, steepling his fingers while listening*

Annunzio: And work to make them productive members of the commuity

Annunzio: Which to date seems to be working

Nynaeve: *small tear streaks down my face and I wipe it off...hurt from the insults*

Huma Dragonbane: You can't rehabilitate people that thrive off of death Magefire: ya you can Huma Dragonbane: saev the crocodile tears

Annunzio: There there...

Magefire: give em a cheap substitute for death

Annunzio: *comforts Nyn*

Talon Skyfire: *nods to Spawn*

Annunzio: Greetings sir

Nynaeve: Is there any more insults you wish to bandish at me, Sir, or have you finished being cruel

Nynaeve: for tonight?

Sir Robert: *nods to Spawn*

Savhanna: greetings Spawn

Spawn: Hail... Huma Dragonbane: I'll finish when you answer my question

Nynaeve: I have, Sir

Magefire: *puts head down* Huma Dragonbane: You haven't even come close clutist Huma Dragonbane: cultist*

Sir Robert: Lord Regent Huma...

Sylver: Nynaeve, perhaps you could explain to huma what happened that night when the OES...

Magefire: gah I can't take much more from you, Sir

Nynaeve: I said that we would abide by our treaty...we have so far and will continue to do so

Sylver: first claimed Britain.

Sir Robert: As friend, I want to remember you that you are a guest in this Council.

Huma Dragonbane: which treaty is that? Huma Dragonbane: and I am aware of this Robert... Huma Dragonbane: But I won't endanger men needlessly

Nynaeve: Sorry..treaty is the wrong word...I misspoke...the document that makes us part of Trinsic counsel...

Magefire: Best watch yourself in front of the council you are a guest of, m'lord

Nynaeve: sorry...I'm so flustered by this attack..I can't think

Annunzio: Now let's not get carried away

Annunzio: We are on the same side here

Huma Dragonbane: are we? Magefire: Vas Rel Por - Gate Travel

Annunzio: This is just a misunderstanding

Magefire: usually we are

Annunzio: Aye sir

Magefire: Vas Rel Por - Gate Travel Huma Dragonbane: Well...please elaborate how Ncr has proven their "rehablitation" Magefire: An Grav - Dispel Field Magefire: this thing

Annunzio: They have been helpful with Council affairs

Annunzio: And have done nothing simce then that I know of

Annunzio: To run counter to the Virutes

Magefire: M'lord Huma

Annunzio: Virtues even

Sir Robert: They have helped KOS in retrieving Lady Arcana.. the mother.

Magefire: the lady Nyn speaks of this document Huma Dragonbane: Tis hard to run counter to the Virtues when even evil serves them

Annunzio: *scratches head*

Annunzio: I'm not sure I understand

Huma Dragonbane: let me see it please Magefire: i require it back

Nynaeve: Sir, when OES was the only people willing to move against the Humanists we joined them for that

Magefire: im pretty sure its the only copy trinsic holds at the moment

Nynaeve: battle, but when they took over the city of britian and claimed us as ally...we renounced

Magefire: i should probably lock it down in the Mayor's Home Huma Dragonbane: I see no Clutist signature

Nynaeve: thier claim and we now are on thier bad books

Magefire: Ncr signed it, that much i remember Huma Dragonbane: hmm Magefire: hmm Magefire: is right Magefire: *sighs*

Nynaeve: I will sign or I will get my Master too...it has just never been given to me

Magefire: red leaves have been used upon it

Nynaeve: Ah

Magefire: we will have another copy signed for you

Sylver: I was explained by Nynaeve before that the NcR are not all evil. There is a...

Nynaeve: Thank you, Sir

Sylver: line between good and evil, and they follow that line.

Magefire: I think you may have been absent from the meeting Huma Dragonbane: I suppose thats why they have collected pieces of the Hand

Nynaeve: We believe the dark and the light serve a purpose and both are needed

Huma Dragonbane: In fact they hold more pieces to it than anyone else Magefire: Kal Ort Por - Recall

Annunzio: I am not familiar with this

Nynaeve: I do not know of this Hand, sir

Savhanna: the hand?

Huma Dragonbane: The Hand of Evil

Annunzio: Ort Por Ylem - Telekinesis

Huma Dragonbane: A suit of battle gear Huma Dragonbane: prohpecy tells that its completion will plunge Sosaria into a darkness Huma Dragonbane: that it will never recover from Huma Dragonbane: If you've bothered to look at Isk, you will see its effects

Nynaeve: Well it is a good thing we have pieces so it will never be completed!

Huma Dragonbane: Your right Huma Dragonbane: It never will be Talon Skyfire: Hmm Talon Skyfire: Isk holds the Helm Huma Dragonbane: not until I am dead and gone at least Huma Dragonbane: but I don't plan on that for a while Reyja: Good evening everyone Reyja: Am I interrupting something?

Savhanna: Greetings, tis a council meeting

Reyja: I'm very sorry then. Huma Dragonbane: no glib remark about that eh?

Nynaeve: What do you want me to say, I'm sure your as important as you think you are.

Annunzio: There must be some way that we can smooth this over

Annunzio: There is no reason for disagreements among friends

Sir Robert: I agree Anunnzio

Nynaeve: I have no disagreement with Huma

Annunzio: *nods*

Nynaeve: my only aim has been to help this counsel

Huma Dragonbane: We will see when the cards have been dealt

Nynaeve: Yes, Sir, I look forward to the day you see that I am right.

Savhanna: That is all we can do, M'Lord. The council voted to take them at their word and they

Huma Dragonbane: *smirks*

Savhanna: have given us no reason to doubt them as yet.

Sylver: *nods*

Savhanna: If they do of course we will be watching and act upon it.

Huma Dragonbane: they will Huma Dragonbane: but you won't recognize it

Sylver: So far, the NcR has proven to be very helpful.

Huma Dragonbane: They're already working in on Yew Talon Skyfire: *checks the time*

Nynaeve: What?

Huma Dragonbane: *tilts his head* Huma Dragonbane: please...if your anywhere as close to Smogg as you think you are you know Huma Dragonbane: "Yew should become a neutral town, no longer a part of the Regency"

Nynaeve: What is that a quote from, Sir?

Savhanna: *looks puzzled*

Sylver: Who's word are those Huma?

Huma Dragonbane: Smogg Azalin's

Nynaeve: From where?

Huma Dragonbane: from a Yew meeting

Nynaeve: When?

Huma Dragonbane: *looks at his watch*

Nynaeve: one second

Huma Dragonbane: And may I ask what these "healers" have done about the plague? Talon Skyfire: Much Huma Huma Dragonbane: such as? Talon Skyfire: Ive worked my tail off there Huma Dragonbane: Not you Talon... Huma Dragonbane: the Cult Talon Skyfire: *nods* Talon Skyfire: I havent seen them there Talon Skyfire: I share your sentiments when it comes to the Cult Huma Dragonbane: I have my own meeting to tend to..

Sir Robert: But might I remind ye two Lords of the DA! ?

Huma Dragonbane: I apologize for taking your time

Sir Robert: Its not impossible for someone of darkness to turn into light.

Sir Robert: Malicite even was Acting Regent.

Huma Dragonbane: I'm keeping my eye on them Robert...

Savhanna: and Azreal was accepting into Regency at one time.

Savhanna: Oh nevermind, bad example

Huma Dragonbane: that is their folly Huma Dragonbane: I must go

Annunzio: We hope that these mistrusts will be resolved

Huma Dragonbane: Kal Ort Por - Recall

Annunzio: We would not have taken them in if we did not believe them good to their word

Savhanna: The hour is late.

Talon Skyfire: Aye Spawn: Farewell everyone..

Sir Robert: And I have to leave to the Regency meeting

Spawn: Kal Ort Por - Recall Talon Skyfire: As do I

Nynaeve: I am sorry everyone

Sir Robert: farewell all

Annunzio: Farewell

Talon Skyfire: See you next week friends

Savhanna: Nyv you brought up a good suggestion tonight on the cenus

Sir Robert: Not your fault Ny

Nynaeve: I did not want my presence to hurt the city

Alec Leonhart: Care if I join you m'lord? Talon Skyfire: Not at all Elena: brb Talon Skyfire: Serpents Hold

Savhanna: shall we vote on it next week?

Talon Skyfire: Kal Ort Por - Recall

Sylver: I will stay here for a bit M'Lady.

Sir Robert: But prejudices and old hurts take a long time to be forgotten

Sylver: If that is ok?

Savhanna: that is fine Sylver

Nynaeve: I hope so

Savhanna: I will be in Serpents hold

Sir Robert: I'd say its neither thine, nor NCR's nor Huma's fault.

Nynaeve: So I keep a copy Elena?

Sylver: Should I meet you theer later?

Sir Robert: Untill then.

Nynaeve: I hope I wasn't rude to him...I tried not to be..but it's hard not to answer in kind

Sir Robert: Kal Ort Por - Recall

Savhanna: It is my understanding your loyalities were to Trinsic and not to the Regency

Nynaeve: Yes, M'Lady

Savhanna: I hold no ill will for actions in other towns.

Annunzio: It didn't get out of hand

Savhanna: We shall see you next week

Savhanna: *smiles*

Nynaeve: and you as well, M'Lady

Elena: thjx

Nynaeve: Opinions are just opinions after all...*smile*

Elena: sorry i had to go get sumthin

Sylver: Do you require a gate to serpents's Hold?

Annunzio: I will work on the cencus idea

Annunzio: census rather

Savhanna: would be much appreciated

Savhanna: *smiles*

Sylver: Ok, it is at the bank.

Annunzio: Watch the poards!

Annunzio: ack

Annunzio: boards

Elena: lol

Savhanna: ok

Nynaeve: It's a good idea, Sweetie...tel me if I can help.

Sylver: The meeting place is to the east, then north.

Annunzio: *dies*

Elena: limestone getting to you m'lord?

Savhanna: I have no idea where i am going

Savhanna: thank you

Sylver: Vas Rel Por - Gate Travel

Annunzio: It must be

Elena: well then Elena: STOP PELPING IT Elena: =]

Annunzio: *sigh*

Elena: im sorry Elena: =] Elena: thx for signing those nyn

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