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Spawn · Sage Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 556 Location: New York

**Since some of you guys do not have access to the Sosarian Summit, I decided to post this here as well**

I was thinking about this for some time today. I do not know if it's been mentioned so I'm just going to throw it out here. Opinions are welcome btw...

I was thinking that maybe we could use the in game alliance system to enhance our roleplay. The idea was all the good alignment guilds in the community (Sanctus, Regency, Protectore, etc.) form one giant alliance. The same could be said for the evil aligned guilds(Dark Order,Umbra, ZOG, etc.). We can even go as far as having neutral guilds(if we have any) form their own. And these alliances could war each other just for interaction. Again, this is just an idea I had in my mind and wrote down on paper. Feedback either good or bad is welcome. Thank you.
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn · Transcendent Spammer Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 5017

This is a reason why I've tried to war every RP guild in the community. For the increased possible interaction. Umbra has been led by alot of euro CoRE rules up to date, being warred to everyone in the community is one of those said rules.

The only problem I can see other than the occasional PK wolf in sheep clothing is the alliance chat going nuts. I used to turn it off quite frequently, too much talking.

I also don't feel right about all hands bulletins via ooc means. This means if someone comes to a city and roleplays, and kills like 3 newbs in the city (by rp means, not just KOS), it is not alright for like 20 thousand guild members to come out of nowhere seeking justice, just because someone shouted in guildchat or alliance chat, or ICQ. I prefer it if the killed seek out their brethren in game. Do I hold my guildmates to this? You bet your butt I try to.

Tay Thormear · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject:

I don't think having giant alliances is so hot. I do, however, think that having a rule that all guilds should be warred to all rp guilds would be a reasonable idea.

Cear Dallben ZOG · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject:

First of, how dare you make me post twice. I will now kill you

this actually happened on alot of shards and ruined many lives. not really but people left UO cause of it on many shards. As far as interaction. Everyone should be wared to everyone. not doing so hinders roleplay in a massive way. Anyhow. that part of the idea is super. all good in one all evil in one alliance would piss me off to no end it if continued the current trend of all wars between small guilds ending up as world war *new number here* and stone stacking would no longer be a problem. I already have issues with most alliances formed. its great to be a good guild or a bad guild. but people should set criteria for what an alliance means. but a stickler tho. but my alliance is important to me and ive genreally been against the system form the get go. (original responce)

as to ceinwyn, since in the past people have RPd keeping flocks of pigeons in their pants and having pelicants travel as the speed of sound back home and across planets thru outterspace and back to ilshenar and releaseing 50 stored messages in their peak sacks.
maybe we should disable pigeons during wartime......
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Cear Dallben ZOG · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject:

BTW guys. WAR THE ZOG CABAL! WAR THE ZOG CABAL!
or JOING THE ZOG CABAL JOIN THE ZOG CABAL
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Samon Triest · Sage Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 720

I don't see why we aren't all warred to each other. We trust each guild enough to rp with it and add it to ARPC. Then we should be able to war them, right? Am I orange to you, Cear? If not, PREPARE TO BE! For whatever it is worth. Har har.
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Imryrr Armunn D|O · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:02 am Post subject:

I'd be for trying it out. RP Alliances or *coughs* Empires could still be formed w/i the mechancial alliance. The only thing I wouldn't look forward to would be all the ooc Alliance chat, as Cein mentioned earlier. After an hour or two of that, it would definatly be easier to rp a peeved off evil w(b)itch.

I'd love it if ALL the rp guilds would war each other. Our citizens are in our guild because we believe that realistically everyone should be attackable if the rp calls for it. I'm not too too worried about PKers. If I die, I'll cuss, then rez, then report, then play.
(yeah, I realize that D|O isnt warred to anyone atm, but due to the mechanics of the game, we had to unwar for a bit. We'll be rewarring everyone we can soon).
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Janus Denweir · Adventurer Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 69

I had been discussing with Darrien, my concept of an evil alliance. The Shadow Conclave has been done way too many times and failed too many times. I have come to the conclusion that evil guilds simply are too unreliable to count on as strictly allies, as many times opinions come and go between the baddies.

Therefore, I propose a new idea we used on Lake Superior way back when (4+ years ago). We had the Council of Sin: 8 individuals from different evil associations (more than one can exist from each), who represent the anti-Virtue in the realm. Despise, Shame, Deceit, Destard, Covetous, Hythloth, Pride, Doom (Abyss).

Now, the good thing about this is that we don't always necessarily have to agree on everything, and allows room for debate in a somewhat reasonable manner. The Council on LS would gather every other week in various dungeons, though I'd suspect such a group would only need to meet once a month or so.

Essentially, it was a refreshing idea and somewhat of a mockery of the High Council. Was interesting RP too, having characters represent a specific anti-Virtue.

Just a thought, something new to try.
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Morier · Adventurer Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 79

Janus Denweir · Adventurer Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 69

So you're suggesting a strictly OOC alliance? I was under the impression it had IC relations as well.
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Morier · Adventurer Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 79

That's not my understanding of it.

Cal Hurst · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:29 am Post subject:

Alliances are a BAD IDEA.

Here's why.

First off, it's not because of the community. The people. Or anything like that. It's because of UO.

Alliance mechanics are screwy. More often than not, when you leave an alliance your guild is ghost-warred with every guild that the alliance you were just in was warred with. Meaning, if you ever plan on starting or joining an alliance again with your current guild, you won't be able to. Just ask Molly, it happened to H*G some years ago, and we couldn't figure out why. Up until it happened to the Legion of Justice, I couldn't figure out why.

There is a cure for this, however.

If you leave the alliance and are ghost warred, the ONLY way to clear those ghost wars (without disbanding the guild, that is), is to have the alliance you were just in peace everyone. That will then take you off the ghost-war.

Therefore, my suggestion to everyone, is NOT to do the big alliances for each side. It's a headache.
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Morier · Adventurer Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 79

So... sombreros?
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