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Peregrin Visitor
Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Porthos"] Quote: | Yes, I'm aware of you intent to cause chaos for fun, use Sid as a puppet, form your own sepratist govornment after getting Sid elected. |
Lose Lips sink ships, or misinformation. I suppose you can claim your spies gave you this information. Props to your espionage network, if thats the case.
Quote: | BSE made themselves well known with thier introduction of FaLlOuT the first night, cursing, yelling war me! war me! Claiming to already be the Regent and sitting in my lap. |
As newly appointed Head of the Conclave, I would not advised Lord Fallout to do such a thing. Keeping a drunken Lord from radical behavior is something my predecessor was not as good at.
Quote: | Turns out alot of your members are also real well known in the HOT/DEI circles of fell so no surprise there. The more i asked around the more were heard of. |
Condeeming those that Enjoy keeping reds in check is got me a little confused. So What? And your 'Alot' is mistaken there is one, who enjoys hunting at Yew Moongate.
Quote: | What we heard was the reason you were not warred and why the war was turned off when you joined the alliance. |
Thats a shame really, That you listen to HOT/DEI.
And the attacks on the guild are not needed. Infighting is not our goal.
I wish you well and perhaps this can play out instead of the continued bickering and diversions.
You can continue to ignore, the problem or you can deal with it. See you in game. |
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Porthos Slightly Crazed

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 1313 Location: Luna, Malas
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Lose Lips sink ships, or misinformation. I suppose you can claim your spies gave you this information. |
Nope, this all came from YOUR people, lol. maybe they should all be carefull who they ramble on to.
Quote: | As newly appointed Head of the Conclave, I would not advised Lord Fallout to do such a thing. Keeping a drunken Lord from radical behavior is something my predecessor was not as good at. |
That sentance makes absolutly no sence. Irreguardless a GM is responcible for it's members behaviors as the members actions represent the guild.
Quote: | Condeeming those that Enjoy keeping reds in check is got me a little confused. So What? And your 'Alot' is mistaken there is one, who enjoys hunting at Yew Moongate. |
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Quote: | Thats a shame really, That you listen to HOT/DEI.
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Items of debate were from more than the originating guild but behavior, actions and conduct shown to others in the community. However, I will say when the fine folks in HOT and DEI have a problem with someone it must be bad as they do not hold near the standards the RP community does. This is not the forum to discuss the morel aspect of a guilds members. Trust in the community is hard to come by and BSE has earned none. As I look back the only attempted RP from BSE involves grief and conflict for anyone remotely involved. Nothing you have done to date has been IC and it could have been. good luck with what you are trying to do. _________________ Thanks Simon
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Bailos Grand Inquisitor


Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: The Frozen Wastes
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: |
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The purpose of this thread is for guided discussion about the recent events with the Regency. Please stay on topic...while BSE has a loose stake in these events, they are not the center of this topic.
Not to mention I cannot -STAND- the terrible English. |
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Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis Transcendent Spammer

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 5740
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: |
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It amazes me how the community still lets brand new mouthy asshats come in and ruin things. I know that years past, I should've been given a sound whipping for my 'OMG BADGES' post. I wasn't. I learned that I could be a loud asshat to get things accomplished because people didn't pay attention to you either way, and I didn't find out that was the wrong way for YEARS and years. Negative attention is not the way to go, nor is paying attention to people that seek attention in a negative way. Shame on all of you for letting things degrade this far.
Anyone here oldie enough to remember joking about Molly's guild title, how it was too hard to cram the things in there? DtchssElfAmbsdr=B=[H*G]? Unfortunately, many people in this community have taken that to an extreme; trying to cram as many titles and as much fluff into their character as possible. Notice I say 'fluff', not ROLEPLAY DEPTH and CHARACTER DEFINITION as you should be aiming for. From the outsider looking in perspective, I see a lot of people either trying to destroy a roleplay organization for no reason, people making drama for no reason, or some people trying to cram 'Regent of Britannia' onto their already overinflated title of compensation. No, this isn't a bash on everyone that expressed interest in becoming regent; this is a bash on anyone that knowingly or unknowingly furthered the confusion of the situation and didn't work to clarify after making a mistake (note that ACCIDENTAL is excluded from knowingly/unknowingly; I define accident as the one making an accident accepting that they made a mistake and worked to fix it). This is also a bash on anyone that ripped into someone else like it was their fault that the situation was confusing or was similarly rude.
I'll stop here because everyone reading this either agreed or disagreed with my post one sentence in anyways and there isn't any point in further explanation. |
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Leshok Majere Certifiable


Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 1790 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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I think I have the answer to all these problems,
Sir Robert, bring forth your dodo.
All Hail King Dodo!
meh to me this is just another constant struggle of IC roleplay vs OOC reactions. and we all suck at winning that battle, seriously.
If you want to have an IC meeting like such, then try and hold another one, and make it well known it will be IC only!
If you want to be OOC use IRC or something.
best cure to any problem like this is throw it out the window, get in game, roleplay, roleplay, roleplay. Even if you think it's stupid, there are others who roleplay with you and they think your roleplay is stupid.
upstart calling himself regent? to quote Joffrey from game of thrones "Treason, is still treason, Ser Illyn Payne, bring me his head" |
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Darrien Church Honored Member


Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 1810
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Now I have not been involved in the regency for a few years now, (not at all for OOC reasons, my character became undead) but from what I see on the boards and here via the grape-vine issues always center around the same group of role-players for the same reasons.
It's the same game we've seen for years, different players.
We have people who for whatever reason OOCly are inclined to desire control so much that in poor RP they act in a way not true to character or Sosaria, use ICQ and other means to propagate dark plans.
Perhaps, if kept ICly and done correctly a "rebellion" against the Regency would be alot of fun and heck I may revive one of my "good" characters to take a side but this uprising is not from my understanding for the betterment of role-play or the community, yes the community as I have never recognized personally a separation between ARPC and FAR.
The people or guild/guilds who usually are responsible for these OOC-cloack and dagger plotting are usually the same who make fools of themselves ICly by acting in a way that is rude and ill-mannered out of character usually in a childish fit of rage.
That being said...I point the finger at no one as I am not involved but I will say this is another proof as to why we need standards for guilds to meet before we accept them into our community, we also need to realize that when these same people who are not on par with how we do things here on Atlantic make insane claims over cities, titles or religions we ignore them...
How do we RP it? I live in New York City I see plenty of crazy people on street corners claiming to be my messiah or trying to lead a revolt against our government. I ignore them...
In conclusion, I like the concept of the Regency and have never had an issue with any of it's current members aside from the few who seem to be causing all the OOC chaos and animosity...if we all have a problem with the same people why are they still considered a part of this community?
Call me a fascist if you will but ban their IPs, add the entire guilds, memberlists and all to any sort of ban-thread we have, all respectable RP guilds un-war them and perhaps move the regency meetings for two months or so and they will eventually go away...
Finally, focus on the greater issue in this thread, all personal attacks and debates please take to private mediums as it's simply going to confuse/anger and welcome the opinions of people no way involved. |
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Samon Triest Sage


Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 720
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Been trying to keep track of all this Regency stuff. Not sure what the deal is. Moonglow is not on either side, FAR or ARPC, we are on the side of RP. That means that MTC still recognizes Porthos as Regent until he resigns. Why you ask? Because he was sort of there first.
So to make it simple...
Porthos is Regent. That is pretty much it. I am not saying you all can't be Regency and what not, but like, the other was there first...MTC isn't rocking any boats. We are gonna rock it like we have been. We aren't picking the FAR side, we are just going with what we know.
Maybe you could all work together so that no one has to choose a side in the long run...
tahank uyo lrod anubis _________________ Through all else, let Honesty lead you! |
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Spawn Sage


Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 556 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Take it in stride..
That's what I say and do!
Look at me, I'm a huge success! _________________
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Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis Transcendent Spammer

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 5740
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Samon Triest wrote: | That means that MTC still recognizes Porthos as Regent until he resigns. Why you ask? Because he was sort of there first. |
Thats all there is to it. I still have a giant folder in outlook dedicated to the last time someone brought up a rediculous anti-regency fiasco.
"Plots" done for OOC reasons, especially OOC vendettas, never work out... Especially when they involve taking, destroying, or denouncing something that belongs to someone else, especially when that ownership is long accepted.
Long story short, I hope the community just up and ignores the troublemakers behind this pisspoor halfassed 'roleplay' that is simple, blatant OOC drama taken in game. I'm not going to waste my time linking to RP 101 again, since those war heroes and founders of roleplay that need it are clearly not reading it. |
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Sir Robert Honored Member

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 1139
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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The Great Dodo, in his infinite wisdom does not meddle with he petty affairs of human politics.
Personally, I don't have a clue what's going on here with the regency and whatnot, and will remain actively ignorant both IC and OOC. *grin* At least as noone violates any forum rules.
And Dodo shares my sentiment about "ruling" you people: A few years ago when most good aligned rper were Regency, I was asked if I would run for Regent. My response still holds true: "I'm insane, not stupid."
Still, mucho luvs to those who do... Rather you, than me.  _________________ Reality, the refuge of those who fail in RPGs
Though this be madnes, yet there's method in't |
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Ditto Armunn Slightly Crazed


Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 1357 Location: D|O Territory - DarkCove
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:26 am Post subject: |
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I've stated my OOC opinion where it needed to be stated, and I went to the meeting in Skara...(was very confused how to work ooc/rp).
In Britain, I was totally RP & took the character I'd started out with in the first place..her mind and view on politics. From what I saw during the hour I was there, it was 100% rp and WOW, for the first time in a long time, I found a political "meeting" very much fun this go around.
Best part: Positive stuff actually got accomplised and it gave chars that might not normally see ea other, a chance to mingle in their own unique ways.
By Role-playing it, I've discoverd (took me a while because Im slow that way) that I won't have to wonder or worry about ooc ploys, puppets, & pompash behavior. So the best way, at least I've found that works for me, is as was already stated above with wiser words than mine on how to handle the confusion.... NO PeePee, All RP.
QUESTION: After the voting for the nominated candidates, will there be a second vote of like the top two that win the first round?
QUESTION #2: Will this be an ig "show of hands" vote to keep the ooc cheating to a minimum? If not, then what is the voting system planned?
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Spawn Sage


Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 556 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Ditto Armunn wrote: |
QUESTION: After the voting for the nominated candidates, will there be a second vote of like the top two that win the first round?
QUESTION #2: Will this be an ig "show of hands" vote to keep the ooc cheating to a minimum? If not, then what is the voting system planned?
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Answer to question #1: I do not know
Answer to question #2: I believe they are going to have chickens that represent each candidate race from one side of the room to the other. The first pigeon that does so, that candidate wins.
Or... we could have a free for all which I'm totally in favor of _________________
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Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis Transcendent Spammer

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 5740
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still just amused that everyone seems to have missed the part about 'must be a loyalist to become regent' and all that jazz. My advice to the nominees: might be a good idea to learn about the position before you run for it. Learning the constitution might be a good start, especially when the process of becoming regent is listed there.
Either way, popcorn's up, I'm going to continue to be astounded and confused from the sidelines. |
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Lord Fong Sage


Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 706 Location: Moonglow
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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*sadly finds himself agreeing with kuja...sits on the bench and reaches for a handful of popcorn* _________________ It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds. - Samuel Adams |
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Cal Hurst Atlantic Legend


Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 8025 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: |
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I must have missed this whole thread...
Were people applying for nominations for Regent without knowing the constitution of the governing body they were applying to lead?
Very George W of yas! _________________
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