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Tay Thormear Lore Master

Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1219 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: MTC Harassment |
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(Spelling on harassment)
MTC is being griefed and harassed to no end by two guilds: Black Tower "*"and Demented Souls "D.S."
The reason for this, the other night at an event that start at Poets Garden, a member by the name of Delusional D.S. came and started dropping "Black Person" names and Film Actors Guild words. (Hidden meaning in that..) Anyways..MTC made it clear that we thought they were pathetic and rude to no extent for saying that.
Now books are spred across Sosaria claiming this or these guilds plan to "Take Over" Moonglow and protect it etc.. This is -not- a plot that MTC has stirred up, this is pure grief and harassment.
I have a ton of recruits who are trying to learn to better themselves in RP and now I have to try and teach them to ignor these people like you ignor nor bullys in elementary school. The attempt to reason with both GM's has failed, neither give two poops about what I have to say. The continuously stand at Moonglow bank and call MTC cowards, unhonorable etc..please ignor this.
I'm not quite sure what to do, other then ignor them. |
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Bailos Grand Inquisitor


Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: The Frozen Wastes
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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So far you and MTC are well within the right, Beo. Just remember to keep your head above the water and do -not- reduce yourself to anything remotely near their tactics, which I am sure you know.
The best bet would be to collect screenshots and names and report all of the griefers. Some GMs do care about keeping roleplayers just as happy as other customers and unfortunately, you will have to keep trying until you get one. These people need to be reported and action needs to be taken against them. Griefing and Harassment are bannable offenses as clearly defined in the TOA and TOS. |
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn Transcendent Spammer

Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 5017
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, they are acting like roleplayers. They are preaching and not really breaking terms of service. I'm not sure if a GM would actually do anything about it. Maybe to put them all on ignore is the best way to get peace of mind. |
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Halister Marner Site Programmer


Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 2225
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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If they want to enter the community, unfortunately causing drama isn't the way to go, we don't need more drama or guilds that promote it.
As a community, I don't think we should support the guild unless they choose to play nicely and enter the community like the rest of us did, by holding events, interacting friendly with other roleplayers, and generally proving their interest in being productive members of the roleplay community.
Due to the new formations in the ARPC, I also believe it is important to stand unified against these things, another group may be harassing someone else in the future, and by not standing unified we create even more rifts within our own community. _________________ "There are those who dream to escape reality, and there are those who dream to change it." |
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Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis Transcendent Spammer

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 5740
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Due to the new formations in the ARPC, I also believe it is important to stand unified against these things, another group may be harassing someone else in the future, and by not standing unified we create even more rifts within our own community. |
Amen.
What I hate most is when groups like this emerge in the worst way, then they think they'll be sneaky and cover it up by pretending they are a roleplay group and 'oh, we just made a mistake!' and then someone in the roleplay world defends them to no end simply because they OOC'ly don't like the group that the griefers were harassing.
Don't let it happen. |
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Porthos Slightly Crazed

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 1313 Location: Luna, Malas
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry Cein, no matter how many times he pokes and tries to tickle you the fact is short of those 7 emotes was the only time I saw this guy even try to RP. The people he brought with him did nothing even close. While I didn't invite him to Umbra for tea I did let him know that neither community recognizes or tolerates behavior of that caliber. If they want to RP then they should try and making religious and ethnic slurs isn't a way to get started. People speak of RP'ers becoming or being unified, I saw many there to watch the comotion and no one said one word to back MTC up at all. Unification starts with taking a stand against people who break the rules the communities have laid out and turning your backs on them as a group.
*sorry, just my rant after seeing MTC getting totally harrassed. _________________ Thanks Simon
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Tia-Setri Sage


Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 544 Location: Akoris, Outside Skara Brea
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Book dropping, insults and other bs is no way to RP. RP wise these people will not be recognized as the governing body in Moonglow. The fact that claims were made an no one said anything was appalling.
The name calling by Arrow Head was rude..and not a word was said. The spamming of "Beowolf is a r tard" is not RP. A known griefer and Pker is in the Alliance ranks.
And there was a warning about Samurai Jack on these boards a while back. I would put the twinks on ignore and walk away, they demanded a war and when asked to go to Fel they declined. They showed their hand...time to ignore them and walk away. Let them act like children. _________________ "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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Isk Honored Member

Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 1667 Location: -=Magincia=-
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Show them the amount of houses you own on Moonglow island. Might deflate their balloon, but ignoring them would be the best choice. |
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Tay Thormear Lore Master

Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1219 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Ya...the entire time I was there, I saw no such rping. I saw them preaching that MTC is dishonorable, cowards and that we won't war them. I saw them preaching that Moonglow is important and needs a new leadership. But when Ceinwyn confronted them and asked "What are your motives?" the only response was "well Moonglow is important". I'm not debating whether or not these guys are trying to rp, I know their pissed off because we called them on their mistake. When offered the chance to prove their worth, six of them and one of me. None followed into the red gate. Basically, they don't have my respect because of their immaturity and attitude, they talk alot of smack but rather just sit in town and carry on. The only talk I heard from them consisted of "lol, omg's" and everything else.
I at first, like the rest of my guild, was angered and wanted to "clomp". But after seeing them back out so many times over and over again, I just hope the rest of my guild, like me, understands their a waste of time. I appreciate the amount of people who have stopped by Moonglow to witness this festival of disrespect. But if you wouldn't mind, throwing in the odd "Check out how many homes they own. Check out their history. Grow up and move on." anything would be appreciated.
Much <3 from Beo the R Tard. |
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Toren Smythe Seasoned Veteran

Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 478
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Heh, Sounds like you guys are doing exactly what needs to be done in a situation like this. You're not feeding it, you're making them feel and more importantly look stupid. And while doing it, you're not breaking character. I give MTC my kudos. _________________
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn Transcendent Spammer

Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 5017
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know how anyone could think I support the griefers.
I don't. I asked them several times what the point of what they were doing was, they never gave an answer. All they could say was dishonorable this and that. Me talking to the one guy kind of distracted his guild while the other guild in their alliance was preaching. They had nothing better to do than carry on in Moonglow, challenging MTC to fel, yet never going when Beo actually opened a gate.
Quote: | I saw many there to watch the comotion and no one said one word to back MTC up at all. |
However, MTC didn't really need backing up. As a member of ARPC community, of course, Umbra will stand beside MTC when it comes to this type of behavior. That said, and i don't mean to sound cranky, but you didn't back MTC as far as I could see, either. Please don't bash anyone else for not screaming at the griefers.
Ignoring them is probably the best route to take in this case. |
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Porthos Slightly Crazed

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 1313 Location: Luna, Malas
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | While I didn't invite him to Umbra for tea I did let him know that neither community recognizes or tolerates behavior of that caliber |
Actually I did. Delusional was told point blank his claim was unrecognized and his beef was ooc and held no merrit.
As far as supporting griefers and bashing anything i said no such thing. I mentioned if people want to band together, no time like the present. _________________ Thanks Simon
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Halister Marner Site Programmer


Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 2225
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Let's keep this post on the topic at hand, just a reminder since I can see things getting a bit heated.
As long as we stick together we have nothing to worry about, they'll get tired and realize they can't do anything against the RP community as a whole. _________________ "There are those who dream to escape reality, and there are those who dream to change it." |
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn Transcendent Spammer

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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I keep hearing now that these people have alts within our community. If so, is someone going to bring that up? Who are they alts of? |
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Avature Adventurer

Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 78 Location: ATL GA
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I fed it to one of there members in fel...seems he likes the taste of taking the pwn...~*_*~ "Sir Lion of Beef, 7-29-07" I did hear that there alts in the community but i am not sure of names and i don't want to wrongly accuse anyone. _________________ When all is gone, and all you see has been washed away, it is Moonglow that will endure.
..........The Glorious Lord Avature....(MTC).........
..............Moonglow Town Council.....................
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