Fourteenth Meeting of the Yew Council

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Thrawn: first, I'd like to weleomc the representatives from OES and Clan Moor Thrawn: a lot of changes will be coming soon, and there is much to discuss

Dhamon says Thank you.. we are honored to be here.

Thrawn: the first thing I would like to discuss is this war against OES Thrawn: and their allies Thrawn: it seems some breakdowns of communications and what "rules" exist

Dhamon says Not a problem.. feel free to ask questions.

Dragor says Hail everyone

Dhamon says Greeting...

SunWolf: hail un Thrawn: is leading to some more animosity and insult slinging than usual Thrawn: hello there

Cassiopea says Hail

Dhamon says One incident I'd like to discuss.. is the nuetral ground of the WYU tower.

Thrawn: when it begins to come arguments about who fights fair and who doesn't Thrawn: it gets ugly

Dhamon says neutral even

Thrawn: right, the WYU tower thing

Dhamon says Aye.. some fellow members are banned from it.

Dhamon says We were not aware that it was a neutral zone.

Dhamon says We had thought SCT was the only one.

Thrawn: yes, so it seems Thrawn: that it looks like was due to poor communication

Dhamon says Aye.. so it seems.

Thrawn: between the school leaders and your people

Dhamon says We feel the tower shouldn't be harbouring the Militia.

Thrawn: I have established a means of communication with Azalin Scarab: *rolls eyes*

Dhamon says Aye.. a good thing.

Thrawn: to avoid such confusion in the future Thrawn: as for them "harboring" Militia Thrawn: some Militia members being there to witness an event

Dhamon says Our members were banned.

SunWolf: *hand* Thrawn: is hardly "harboring" in my eyes Thrawn: go ahead SunWolf

Dhamon says Braveheart over here.

SunWolf: I have asked who all is there most of the time SunWolf: krythan is a teacher there SunWolf: william is an student there

Dhamon says He may be.

SunWolf: the rest is wym

Dhamon says But he is in the Militia.

SunWolf: which all work and sleep there

Dhamon says That should be no excuse to ban our people.

Scarab: *nods* SunWolf: you can't expect them to stop helping the younger people in the lands SunWolf: to battle you hourly do you? Thrawn: the banning was done by the WYU

Dhamon says From the tower.. when we were trying to form an attack.

Scarab: *hand* Thrawn: the WYU declared it neutral, and though you might not have known they had Thrawn: they felt they should kep it that way...

Dhamon says We were not aware of it and should of been notified.

Thrawn: go ahead Vargen Scarab: It was me not Vargen Pyros: OES and Militia alike should have been banned Thrawn: you should have been notified, correct, there in lies the problem

Dhamon says Aye.. not a bad suggestion Pyros.

Thrawn: sorry, go ahead Scarab

Dhamon says I feel if we are to banned from the tower.. the Militia should be as well.

Pyros: *nods to Dhamon*

Dhamon says Or our banned be lifted.

Scarab: I first wish to understand whether OES knows the difference between WYM and Scarab: the Militia

Dhamon says Yes we do.

Dhamon says But

Scarab: WYM is a part of WYU

Dhamon says If you are harbouring Militia then we must consider you an enemy.

Scarab: WYU is not a Militia stronghold

Dhamon says Understand my meaning?

SunWolf: well one thing SunWolf: it is hard to band krythan SunWolf: since he is cowoner of the tower

Dhamon says That may be so..

Dhamon says Then we should be unbanned.

Vargen: *hand* SunWolf: i agree with that SunWolf: and i will arrange that

Braveheart says 6nbbbperhaps but it seems the militia spends alot of time there suddenly

Dhamon says Aye.. thank you.

Thrawn: if you discuss that with the WYU people, and agree to their neutrality request Thrawn: perhaps that can be arranged Scarab: If ye had done the same thing in one of LOA's towers ye would have been banned too

Braveheart says main Yew the streets are empty

SunWolf: give me the names who you see at wyu daily plaese when u see them

Dhamon says If I may add..

Dhamon says (Banning is more or less not roleplaying)

Dhamon says See my point?

Scarab: [Aye, but student safety was at issue] Vargen: (I agree) Pyros: (he;s right, no point in banning)

Braveheart says when you held the tower you were not bamnned

Braveheart says we took it back

Dhamon says (And are we not trying to have a roleplaying war here?)

Braveheart says should you not do the same

SunWolf: but if you break a rules of wyu technaly all wyu allies would be on you also Scarab: But that was your tower, my entire point is that WYU is not a Militia tower

Dhamon says Indeed.

Dhamon says We you attacked our tower.. did we ban you?

Scarab: And when I tried to join the battle I was killed by a guard

Dhamon says No.

Braveheart says but in war you must chase your enemy where he hides

Dhamon says We = When

Arogorn of SK: ok SunWolf: we should move on and keep this between wyu.miltia, and oes Arogorn of SK: *hand* SunWolf: not bore the rest of the quast here Scarab: *nods*

Dhamon says Hmm..

Thrawn: go ahead Aragorn Arogorn of SK: well I dont think dhamon got the main point Arogorn of SK: yes you are having a roleplaying war Arogorn of SK: no you dont ban Vargen: for now, why not say that in the interest of student safety, should any milita member Arogorn of SK: but its like you atttacked the sct or something Vargen: see someone from OES Arogorn of SK: the militia is not responsible for the bannings Vargen: they should leave the area immediately to draw them away

Dhamon says Aye.. I like the idea Vargen.

Arogorn of SK: so saying we didnt ban you Arogorn of SK: when you attacked our tower Arogorn of SK: is irrelavant

Dhamon says We cannot attack if we are banned

Scarab: That's the point Arogorn of SK: it is outside the roleplaying war Scarab: Arogorn is exactly right

Dhamon says WHy should we be stopped by an invisible barrier?

Thrawn: sounds good to me Vargen Scarab: Why should our students be subject to your rp war?

Dorillion says seems lik eits alot of poeple here

Arogorn of SK: *growls*

Braveheart says may I ask how many innocents have been harmed

Dhamon says They are because your harbouring Militia members.

Thrawn: exactly Smogg Azalin: Greetings

Malicite says hello Smogg

Thrawn: hello Ragnar: Greetings Pyros: Welcome Mr. Azalin SunWolf: this is piontless righ tnow no wyu is here to state there claims

Dhamon says Greetings

Smogg Azalin: Thank you

Vargen says if our being there is endagering the students, then we shouldn't be there. period.

Thrawn: braveheart, just seeing the fighting on their grounds is enough to scare them Thrawn: in any case

Braveheart says fear is not harm

Dhamon says Then I suggest Militia members shouldn't hide cowardly in the tower when we..

Dhamon says confront them.

Vargen says I would like to remind everyone that we have bigger matters to discuss

Dhamon says Agreed?

Pyros: Agreed Thrawn: the message that Militia should not loiter around there has already been passed Thrawn: along by SunWolf Thrawn: now, any other items about this war people would like to discuss?

Dhamon says I think that's enough for the time being.

Lord Rainbow says Will there be any fiction related to this fighting?

Seldon of Aiur says ok

Lord Rainbow says Or a simple, we're evil we do evil stuff and we're good we kill evil reasonning?

Thrawn: hmm Pyros: Welcome LSS

Dhamon says If I may say.. this is none of your concern RK.

COCO: hi Surak'nar: greetings

Lord Rainbow says If this is none of my concearn I have no place here anylonger

Thrawn: well, if OES have a plan for taking over Yew, I have not heard it

Braveheart says I can not speak to spirts what did the ghost say?

Cogniac says ?

Malicite says hello Duke Surak'nar

Lord Rainbow says Kal Ort Por

Dhamon says Good riddance.

Dhamon says The stench of him was making me sick.

Vargen says if they want Yew they can join up with Minax and try to take it :)

Dhamon says Enough of this.

SunWolf: dhamon

Dhamon says Let's continue on with the other matters.

SunWolf: rk had more right to speak here on this topic as anyone at this meeting Thrawn: I must ask that you try to keep the insults to a minimum if you are gonna sit

Dhamon says Our guild is not to pleased with RK.

Dhamon says You may not of known.

SunWolf: why not? Thrawn: and sometimes we are not too please with members of your guild

Dhamon says (But he gave murder counts in an RPed situation)

Dhamon says We are not to pleased with that.

Thrawn: but he still has a right to speak at our meetings Thrawn: anyways, let's move on Thrawn: these faction wars Thrawn: definitely need some discussion Thrawn: I have read arguments for keeping the council in these lands Thrawn: and defending Yew in the wars Thrawn: and arguments to move the council to the new land Thrawn: and avoid getting caught up in the mayhem and chaos it is likely to bring Thrawn: this is going to be a big decision, so it will probably be discussed for awhile Thrawn: so consider this the opening round of opinions and ideas on the matter Thrawn: would anybody like to start? Arogorn of SK: i could i guess

Braveheart says ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Arogorn of SK: well Arogorn of SK: from a rp view

Braveheart says if I may

Braveheart says excuse me

Braveheart says go ahead

Arogorn of SK: it looks as though the new lands will have more of an evil setting

Dhamon says *evil grin*

Vargen says that is the old lands with the evil setting

Vargen says they're changing

Arogorn of SK: i thougt the trammel lands Arogorn of SK: had the death knights and necromancers Pyros: these are the trammel lands Thrawn: hmm Arogorn of SK: eh Arogorn of SK: well Arogorn of SK: then a move Arogorn of SK: might be good Arogorn of SK: reverse it Thrawn: so you are suggestiong moving away from the faction wars?

Vargen says the necromancers and death knights are part of the faction war

Vargen says they check faction allegiance when you walk by them

Arogorn of SK: ok I should be quiet I dont know enough i guess Thrawn: *chuckle* Arogorn of SK: *grins*

Braveheart says one point is this not

Thrawn: Braveheart, did you want to comment?

Braveheart says what you people have dreamed

Braveheart says of

Dorillion: Master I think we are done here

Braveheart says defend your city and controlit

Smogg Azalin: *nods*

Braveheart says and does it not go against the Virtues

Braveheart says to abandon the weak

De Coursolle says Hreturning to Sh brb

Thrawn: hmm? I don't follow? who would be abandoning the weak?

De Coursolle says Kal Ort Por

Braveheart says if all good meif all this is roleplay right?

Braveheart says if you pick up and leave thats what you would be doing

Thrawn: that is one way of looking at it, thank you

Braveheart says {roleplay is great but to have both words and deed will appeal to alot of folks in all y

Braveheart says your guilds

Braveheart says add to the experience

Arogorn of SK: I dont think a final desicion can be made until it actually happens Arogorn of SK: we dont kow how this quest will play out

Braveheart says thinkof the pride of holding Yew

Braveheart says your town

Seldon of Aiur says milord, please

Braveheart says or the rage at haveing to win it back from the Evil scum

Braveheart says sorry Im done

Thrawn: valid points, thank you Pyros: *hand* Thrawn: would anybody else care to express their opinion, on what we should do? Thrawn: go ahead Pyros Surak'nar: *raises hand* Pyros: I take it OES will be fully participating in the Faction Wars?

Dhamon says We have not choosen yet.

Dhamon says Still overlooking the decision.

Smogg Azalin: *seems pale as usual* Pyros: I see, thank you. Surak'nar: *raises hand* Thrawn: Surak'nar Surak'nar: Thank ye! Well, in my opinion...since this is OOC meeting Surak'nar: I beleive that Pure role play and the way things are done here now Surak'nar: it is better to move Surak'nar: because there will be the faction system

Vargen says *hand*

Surak'nar: that will permit to make war on cities COCO: oui Surak'nar: proclaim City leaders and such COCO: il fau reconsiderer

Dhamon says (Is that just for one land?)

Surak'nar: 2 Councils in same space will conflict SunWolf: no more events or meetings also if we stay Surak'nar: Aye

Dhamon says Why is that?

Ragnar: aye Pyros: Aye Surak'nar: Exactly SunWolf: dhamon SunWolf: if we hold meetings or events

Dhamon says Yes..

SunWolf: what stops other facyions finding out about them daily and attaks Smogg Azalin: Kal Ort Por Thrawn: aye... look at it now, even just a simple guildwar, and we can hardly have meetin

Vargen says why do we have to chose one world or the other?

Thrawn: meetings without being disrupted

Dhamon says Why join a faction then.. if it's going to arise these problems.

Vargen says we have too many problems now

Vargen says with the way things are done

Surak'nar: Faction system is there in order to have fun with PvP

Vargen says just look at the WYU issue

Pyros: *hand*

Dhamon says (Faction is just going to be order and chaos)

COCO: non SunWolf: yes and give them control over towns

De Coursolle says Can i suggest something mayor trawn

Dhamon says Yes.. but if you join a faction.. you'll be just like Chaos and Order.

Vargen says What do we do if we go through the moongate and there isn't a Yew there?

Dhamon says (With the kewl d00ds and such)

Dhamon says (I haven't seen many Chaos and Orders roleplaying myself)

Pyros: (Your exactly right) Surak'nar: *nods*

Dhamon says (And were a roleplaying community, correct?)

De Coursolle says *raise hand*

Pyros: We all want a dynamic community

Braveheart says *hand*

SunWolf: mind if i answer dehamon Thrawn: De Coursolle? Pyros: But this is going beyond that

De Coursolle says Milord

De Coursolle says I know the ,map on

De Coursolle says the other side will be the same

De Coursolle says and house and town can not

De Coursolle says be remove

De Coursolle says because

De Coursolle says of conception

De Coursolle says and motor

De Coursolle says they will have a Yew

Vargen says what if it's overrun with orcs or something?

Vargen says here we'll have a chance to hold it

Surak'nar: This land will be over run Surak'nar: not the new

Braveheart says *hand*

Thrawn: Braveheart?

Braveheart says one point on the faction

Braveheart says if we get involved early and help guide its direction

Braveheart says it s has some

Braveheart says hope

Vargen says I agree

Braveheart says if we leave it to the doods then it will fail for sure

Dhamon says Braveheart we cannot guide it..

Braveheart says we have always asked

Braveheart says for a chance to affect

Braveheart says or own outcome

Pyros: *hand*

Vargen says We carved this town, not guild, but TOWN out of the worst PK shard of them all

Braveheart says now we have it

Dhamon says (The d00ds will always be in those types of PvP)

Braveheart says and we say

Braveheart says its gonna suck

Vargen says we can make the faction system work

Dhamon says And in my opinion we should leave it to them.

Braveheart says before it comes out

Braveheart says and make plans to leave

Surak'nar: *waves to Seldon* De Coursolle: Praetor

Braveheart says why not make polans to be leaders in this new community

Braveheart says and guide it

Vargen says I have an idea that could work for both those staying here and crossing over

Dhamon says Please speak Vargen.

Braveheart says think of how the twinks will be on the other side

Vargen says we know that a war is coming

Braveheart says well sorry

Braveheart says *gets off of soapbox*

Vargen says we should start planning to evacuate those who can't/don't want to fight

Vargen says and planning a defense for those who do

Dhamon says Hmm.. not a bad idea.

Cogniac says *raises hand*

Vargen says we could consider the summerlands a place to retreat people to

Vargen says while those of us who are willing

Vargen says try to retake the "real" Yew

Dhamon says (The no pvp lands?)

Arogorn of SK says yea

Vargen says aye, the Summerlands are my term for the no-PvP lands

Dhamon says Ah.. I see.

Vargen says since they'll be green and this one will be fall colors

Dhamon says Aye

Surak'nar: *laughs* Arogorn of SK: its winter Arogorn of SK: the trees have no leaves

Vargen says I thought they were changing that

Dhamon says In fall trees have no leaves.

Dragor says *raises hand*

Surak'nar: *laughs* Pyros: Dragor?

Dhamon says If it was winter there would be no snow on the ground.

Dragor says anyone will be able to join a faction at any given time?

Dhamon says I mean there would be snow on the ground.

Dhamon says *grins*

Surak'nar: *raises hand* Thrawn: it seems that way Dragor

Vargen says there is a one week period between when you say you're quitting, and when it happens

Dragor says thats the problem then I guess

Dhamon says (When is the new lands released?)

Vargen says pretty much everything in this system happens on a weekly basis

SunWolf: excuse me all

Cogniac says *raises hand*

Thrawn: Cogniac

Cogniac says Might I make a sugestion?

Thrawn: sure

Cogniac says Perhaps you could classify the new realm as the "Order" realm

Cogniac says and classify these lands as the "Chaos" realm

Pyros: How about just calling it Felucca Pyros: and this one as trammel

Vargen says this is felucca, the new land is Trammel

Surak'nar: *nods* Thrawn: heh Pyros: other way around vargen

Vargen says I'm prety sure that Trammel moonstones take you to trammel, not from

Gilbert: why we debating on the name of the worlds ? OSI already named it Surak'nar: *raises hand*

Dhamon says *grins*

Dhamon says Aye

Pyros: aye

Cogniac says Anyway,

Pyros: lets move on

Cogniac says My suggestion really is, that all the

Cogniac says Order guilds be

Cogniac says moved to the new realm

Cogniac says and the Chaos guilds

Cogniac says stay here

Cogniac says and let the people

Cogniac says that aren't in guilds

Cogniac says decide for themselves

Thrawn: well Order and Chaos as they are defined now differ little besides shield logos

Cogniac says where to go.

Gilbert: this is a good idea but we can't control other guilds ...

Vargen says we're not a guild, we're a town government. there's a difference, or there used to be...

Dhamon says Aye

Cogniac says But we can encourage them to do so.

Cogniac says In the end

Arogorn of SK says another point is that the choas lands are pvp lands

Cogniac says its really their decision

Arogorn of SK says osi is making them so that the DooDs and the rpers can be seperate

Arogorn of SK says if they want

Surak'nar: *raises hand*

Vargen says There will be doods on both sides, there's no stopping that

Surak'nar: *raises hand*

Cogniac says *:(*

Thrawn: Surak?

Arogorn of SK says but they wont be able to do as much in the felucca lands

Surak'nar: Well, everyone is impacted by these changes zenda: Kal Ort Por Surak'nar: The most bigger problem is the Player run cities Surak'nar: but let alone that problem Surak'nar: A solution could be to have 2 stones Surak'nar: One for faction Warfare and one for Role Play Pyros: *hand* COCO: :)

Vargen says I agree with 2 stones, but I don't think we have to chose one over the otehr

Pyros: *hand* Surak'nar: *nods*

Vargen says we CAN use the faction system as a vehicle for roleplaying

Surak'nar: yes Pyros: There is no need for 2 stones Pyros: If you guys remember Pyros: You can join a faction as an individual Pyros: and remain in the guild COCO: no Surak'nar: No

Vargen says so those of us who want to fight no longer get official recognition by the town?

Ragnar: no Surak'nar: individual is defined as someone not in a guild

Cogniac says yes

Pyros: No no no Pyros: I remember COCO: yes Pyros: if you join say minax Pyros: and then your guild joins say british Pyros: your ejected from the guild COCO: yes

De Coursolle says What are we talking about to said yes or No

Vargen says that is a good point

Pyros: which means you can join whole being part of a guild COCO: no

De Coursolle says Yes

Surak'nar: hmm...interesting mayhap interpretation was not good!

De Coursolle says thCan i answer that

Pyros: sure

De Coursolle says Ok

De Coursolle says If your guild is in war

De Coursolle says forget about faction

De Coursolle says you can not join

De Coursolle says if you are a guild

De Coursolle says without

De Coursolle says war

Pyros: thats true also

De Coursolle says you can put all the guild

De Coursolle says in a faction

Surak'nar: so..2 stones would be also a good idea, one for role play war and 1 for faction

De Coursolle says or one of your member can join without consent

De Coursolle says that it

Dhamon says I'm sorry I must depart.. I'll leave this to Braveheart.

Pyros: farwell Dhamon Thrawn: true, maybe two stones is something to consider

Dhamon says Walk in Darkness

Vargen says I take issue with the terms "faction" and "roleplay" for the stones

COCO: yes COCO: 2 3 4 sont Thrawn: well, yes, how about faction and non-faction? Braveheart: Kal Ort Por Vargen: *nods* Dhamon: Kal Ort Por Arogorn of SK: farewell all Krythan: *mumbles* Surak'nar: true...i am sorry..guess we all try to better addapt to the changes Thrawn: ahh a Seer Thrawn: *smile* Pyros: Hail Lena

Braveheart says Greetings seer

Vargen says greetings Seer

Lady Seer Magdalena: *smiles*

Vargen says may I ask a question?

Pyros: yes

Vargen says Lady Magdalena, do the seers intend to be involved with the factions at all?

Vargen says to encourage people to play the parts of their factions?

Lady Seer Magdalena: Please call me Lena..

Vargen says I'm sorry, Lena it is

Lady Seer Magdalena: But I'm not certain I can answer your questions. Lady Seer Magdalena: I honestly don't know. Thrawn: I have another question for Lena, if she does not mind...

Vargen says I'd appreciate your personal opinion even if you don't know the official plan

Vargen says I'm sorry mayor

Lady Seer Magdalena: The rumors I've heard of these things to come are just as new to me Lady Seer Magdalena: as they are to all of you. Thrawn: if we decide to move the Council to the "new lands", can we expect to have Thrawn: our establishments like this place and WYU put in place there? Lady Seer Magdalena: Thrawn unfortunately I can not answer that one either. Lady Seer Magdalena: You may wish to inquire those things with Nika.

Vargen says I do know one thing for certian: we won't have teh Serpent's Cross on the other side

De Coursolle: *raise hand* Thrawn: yes, I've been looking for him... Thrawn: De Coursolle?

De Coursolle says My question is for lady seer Lena

Lady Seer Magdalena: *listens*

De Coursolle says Lady seer lena can we have a Small discution after this metting please

Lady Seer Magdalena: That would be fine.

De Coursolle says I thank thee

Thrawn: anything else?

De Coursolle says I excuse mysefl for 2 min

Vargen: I have something to say about the earlier issue with OES and WYU Vargen: and about similar issues Thrawn: very well

De Coursolle says Kal Ort Por

Vargen: they shouldn't exist

Melange says Farewell all

Vargen: if there's a problem with WYU and OES and the Militia Vargen: then it should not be resolved out-of-character like this

Melange says Kal Ort Por

Krythan: * hand * SunWolf: I am sorry i left ealier, i am still trying to get our stone back Vargen: we should deal with it in cahracter SunWolf: to true vargen Vargen: out there, in the game Vargen: right now I feel like we're playing a game within a game Vargen: and I don't think we should have to Vargen: that extends to the faction system in a way

Aaryn Silverwind says I have to go all.

Dragor says farewell

SunWolf: krythan is here to speak for wyu now Vargen: right now, if OES wants to conquer Yew, then we have to agree to it

Aaryn Silverwind says Kal Ort Por

Vargen: out-of-character

Vargen says which in my mind makes it as bad as the pre-scripted plots that OSI throws at us

SunWolf: to tell u the truth vargen Vargen: with the faction system, we don't have to worry about that SunWolf: if oes plans on concuring yew SunWolf: it is not ment that we lose SunWolf: they say this is the battle SunWolf: i tell no one SunWolf: if we lose we lose Vargen: they have a means to affect us without breaking character, and without simply... Vargen: keeping this on the level of a schoolyard fight Vargen: look around the room Vargen: we've all managed to create something special on what I've been told Vargen: is "the worst PK shard of them all" Vargen: if anyone can prove what this faction system is capable of, it's us Surak'nar: *nods* Vargen: I might lose Yew and not retake it for a month Vargen: or even a year

De Coursolle says *nod*

Vargen: but I'll know that the story is real Vargen: it's not "fiction" Vargen: because it really happened Vargen: and wasn't staged Vargen: yes, we have to fight for it Vargen: but we've been fighting for 2 and a half years now Vargen: I'm not ready to quit when I can see the possibility of victory Vargen: and if we really can prove ourselves in the faction wars Vargen: we'll earn the respect of the rest of the people Vargen: they won't see us as "those lame RPers" Vargen: we'll be a worthy opponent SunWolf: vargen Vargen: then when they se how much fun we're having... Vargen: we might actually get some converts SunWolf: i been in pvp before i came here SunWolf: over year and a half SunWolf: once u get to the top SunWolf: ofa wrothly guild SunWolf: ur targets for the wrold SunWolf: not really worthly opanbants SunWolf: eer SunWolf: opanatns Vargen: *nods* SunWolf: sorry SunWolf: can't spell righ tnow Pyros: combatants Vargen: I understand what you're saying SunWolf: but everyone comes to mock SunWolf: you 24/7 Vargen: maybe I'm idealistic on that part SunWolf: you can get a 400 man guild SunWolf: you have will have people on you daily Krythan: 'ello gargish SunWolf: Hail Garish Gargish Dragon: Hail good people Vargen: Hello Gargish, it's been a while SunWolf: once you rise to the top you see there is filth under filth Thrawn: Hello, Gargish, we are discussing this whole faction system Surak'nar: Excuseme to interupt here Vargen: that'w why we have to make friends and allies Surak'nar: it does not necessarily have to be filth SunWolf: well ok look at loa Surak'nar: PvPers that mock you simply see this game differently SunWolf: they are a established guild Surak'nar: To most of em it is same as a Session of Quake or C&C SunWolf: they have problems with people always coming after them Surak'nar: does not mean that they are filth Surak'nar: different visions SunWolf: sorry surak SunWolf: i just gotten tired of dealing with them all SunWolf: it became hourly Surak'nar: Aye i understand the frustration Thrawn: well, we could discuss this all night, so let's try and wrap things up for now Pyros: aye Thrawn: I'd like to hear if Gargish has anything to say on the faction matters though De Coursolle: *nod* Thrawn: since he just got here ;) SunWolf: does everyone know who garish is here i hope?

Dragor says aye

Scarab: *nods* Thrawn: someone poke him SunWolf: seems he already fell alseep Gargish Dragon: Its all about making allies Vargen: *nods* Gargish Dragon: I guess you agree that Yew will join the British faction SunWolf: if any yes Thrawn: well, none of the others seem to fit at all Surak'nar: *nods* Gargish Dragon: Many lawful guilds will do, too De Coursolle: same for the order of Silver serpent of the lordship of Silver Serpent Gargish Dr Gargish Dragon: The faction system requires Gargish Dragon: the leader of the faction to ahve a very high kill count Gargish Dragon: Probably something thats not directly the goal of the Yew Militia Vargen: *nods* Gargish Dragon: So whoever will be the leader of the British faction, Yew should try to Surak'nar: i am sorry I have to live you all, some emergency Gargish Dragon: have a good relation to him or his guild

Surak'nar says Kal Ort Por

De Coursolle: ( on the other world they will have orc also so you will be need more than you think) Thrawn: and if the leader of the British faction does not care about us at all Thrawn: well... we don't get much from it Gargish Dragon: well, we can vote against the leader Vargen: then we appeal to the council of mages... or vote the leader out Gargish Dragon: or all the other yew guilds that join the british faction

Vargen says if we make friends among those likely to join British

Vargen says sorry Gargish

Thrawn: good points, thank you Gargish Dragon: Well.. what else.. Gargish Dragon: I have seen an image of the Britsh faction Headquarter Gargish Dragon: It is in Castle British Gargish Dragon: in the throne room Pyros: makes sense Gargish Dragon: I also saw the townstone of Yew Gargish Dragon: It is in the market square Thrawn: the sigil stone? Gargish Dragon: The sigil, and stone Pyros: you mean where that black thing is? Gargish Dragon: No, its not directly there Gargish Dragon: Its beside the grass spot Pyros: Close enough Gargish Dragon: I'll give whoever runs the website an image of it Thrawn: excellent, we are working on the new site, it should be ready soon Gargish Dragon: I think I'm done for now Gargish Dragon: Thank you Thrawn: thank you Gargish Vargen: I have an idea Thrawn: yes Vargen?

Vargen says whatever the area guilds decide to do...

Vargen says move or stay, they could probably use help coordinating things

Thrawn: *nods* Thrawn: I doubt most of them have decided as of yet Thrawn: anyways Vargen: as the town government, I see it as our duty to help them Thrawn: let's end here for now, this has been a long meeting Thrawn: *checks his hourglass* SunWolf: aye Vargen: we can help with the move, with defense efforts, even letting them know what othersd Vargen: do Thrawn: we will have another one the same time next Sunday SunWolf: what is clan moor decising to do? Vargen: I think we should start approaching them and letting them know we're here Vargen: and want to help, no matter what Thrawn: *nod* Thrawn: I'll start visiting some of their message boards Rainbow King: *sighs* SunWolf: hail again rk

De Coursolle says serpent warrior

De Coursolle says ok

Thrawn: I'd like to thank you all for coming Pyros: yes it is

Dragor says Fare well all

Pyros: Aye thank you all for comming Vargen: Sorry for talking everyone's ear off De Coursolle: Pourcela que je voir la Seer apres Thrawn: we can continue discussing these things during the week Pyros: this was a long meeting

Cassiopea says Farewell

Pyros: but we got alot doen Vargen: *stretches* Thrawn: and will definitely have more to talk about at next week's meeting