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Ariana Lenoir Lore Master

Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 1140 Location: City of Britain
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: Confused about standard of children aging! |
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The original plan was to age Ariana's kid the same way I age my character, which would mean about 7 more RL months before she's playable even as a two yr old. Mind you, that plan could be trumped via RP interference, but it was the standard we thought.
Well, there have been a lot of births going on lately (Go Moms!)... however I've seen those kids become like insta-teenager or insta-8yrolds shortly after their births. I know that sometimes rp magic/potions may be involved that I haven't seen, but for the most part I have just see the children are much older and 'act' older as well.
Now, let me say that I'm not judging anyone, nor attempting to force an rp standard. I'm just trying to figure out a poll of what the parent characters do rp wise to explain it, how aging is decided and everyone in the community's point of view is.
I'm kinda torn on it all. I thought the way we agreed on was realistic, but if that's not the standard... well then its silly in an entirely different way. On one hand, I want to try to make my rp be somewhat consistent and avoid instant gratification of having her a playable royal-pain-in-the-ass. On the other hand, if everyone ages their children rapid until __ age, than the character will be screwed rp wise when generations upon generations occur without her having grown up.
Argh! Alright.. anyways... I'd like to take a poll and input from the community to see whatever everyone thinks about this. Maybe they'll be a general consensus among the community or someone will give their opinion in a way that I hadn't considered. _________________
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Cal Hurst Atlantic Legend


Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 8025 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:43 am Post subject: |
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All up to the people who have the kid. If they want to RP out all the toddler age stuff, by all means go right ahead. If they'd rather not, then by all means, don't. It comes down to personal preference.
All in all, there is no standard, and there shouldn't be either. Think of it like a soap opera, really. No one questions how the kid aged so fast, it's just accepted. Unless you take Umbra's approach and talk about growth hormones, but that's not necessary. _________________
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Ariana Lenoir Lore Master

Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 1140 Location: City of Britain
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: |
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I wasn't trying to say there should be a standard community wise and I apologize if my post came across that way.
I just would like to see folks opinions and how they've handled it, systems they've used, etc to help -me- come up with the best way to fit her in. _________________
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Merci d'Rue Babbling Loony

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 2810
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Ariana, I understand the confusion.
I have Zendella Smythe who has been aging the normal way shes finally gotten to like 10 or 12 its taken years obviously. Then I have Nyxanna that was part of the WIT program and shes also a lycan. There was a ton of rp surrounding the breeding raising and advanced aging of these kids, tho it was restricted in many ways. In Umbra we enjoyed rping out the supplements and such made us a bit harsher injecting kids every week. Fit the rp.
You must consider species as well, Lycan children, ettin,tieflings, and other species can tend to grow at much faster rates than human.
Every character I have that is normal human, is growing at normal human rates.
My suggestion is, there is the island of Caina, I have been told children raised there grow faster, *heavily magic influenced* there is the alchemist approach, you can have items made to speed it as well. Then there is as Cal says, what feels right, so you age your child 10 years to one uo year, there is only so much child/toddler rp that can be done. _________________ May destiny guide you... |
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Cal Hurst Atlantic Legend


Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 8025 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Wasn't accusing ya of trying to set a standard, my b if it came across that way. Just do what feels right. Thinking back, Brianha and I actually had some bit of RP as to why the kid aged so quickly. In all honesty, as long as you have some sort of backstory behind why the kid is aging, however in depth you want it to be, no one will really question it or look down on ya for it. _________________
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Bailos Grand Inquisitor


Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: The Frozen Wastes
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Well UO time passes anywhere from 4 to 6 times faster than RL. So, going STRICTLY by game mechanics a character could be viable after 2+ years, unless you wanted to do kiddy RP. BUT, the paradox to this is everything happens in an RP context on a "day to day" basis. Time can't pass 6x as fast, but only be handled day to day, yet it does. So having said that any reasonable standard is out the window.
I would caution against super-magic-power-potion development because that would just speed up bodily growth, not mental. I personally would concede that as long as growing up is documented as a stepped process and doesnt suddenly just HAPPEN, it should be fine no matter what.
I character can't give birth one day, then a full teenager playable character with GM Chivalry shows up the next. Post a baby story, toddler story, young child story, early teen story then let them be playable would be the approach I would take...and separate this by whatever time interval is suitable to your needs and wants.
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Edda Certifiable

Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1586 Location: US
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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My rp kid took some mysterious trips out w/her crazy grandfather. Who knows what happened. Her grandfather is Poet so.. I dont even wanna know
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Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis Transcendent Spammer

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 5740
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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This has been brought up before, and generally results in someone freaking out, so I'm just going to leave you with that link, this link, and my old post in that thread:
Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis wrote: | I asked around about this before. From what I gathered, child roleplayers use the Soap Opera aging chart, I.E. age the child whenever it is no longer interesting to be at that age and more character depth is desired. This tends to go very fast, as goona's chart shows very well, most roleplayed children are 18+ in under half a year most of the time.
The next standard is usually a lack of standard; if you want to follow character aging, most people tend to forget the 5:1 ratio (not intentionally, and I admit to this as well) and just age a bit at a time. It works fairly well, using common sense, but the 5:1 ratio is the real true number if you want to follow it.
The last standard is that some people simply refuse to follow age for whatever reason. Elves and undead don't really need to be bothered with it, because 20 years is nothing to them, but there are plenty of human players that have no excuse or reason but are simply eternally ageless and never age. I find this common among players who have no sense of character development and evolution and expansion of their roleplay. No big loss there, since you tend to discover everything their character is about in the first five minuites of observing them in game.
Just my two cents, but I really did go on this warpath before, and nobody cared about it.  |
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Yasamin Lore Master

Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 1221 Location: Behind the laughter that lays within the shadows
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Bailos wrote: | I would caution against super-magic-power-potion development because that would just speed up bodily growth, not mental. |
I'm in a way going to agree. With Umbra WIT, quite a few of us RP the dmaging affects as well as the "good stuff". Their hormone process involved being able to learn at an accelerated rate, but just using my own character, Ciara is twenty two/three physically, but she's only ten rp'ly. So she aged fast, got the mind developed mentally, but just things one learns by aging and emotions being figuring out through time and life lessons, she's stunted.
As to per year, everyone's different. I know people who believe five years per one (I prefer that one) and others who believe twelve years per one. (Humans only. We won't go into other species) Choose which feels right. Heck, your a deddie. As the mentioned, Caina! lol That city solves so many problems. Just keep the rp real to what you do and everyone will accept it. _________________ (4:45:41 PM) Jarem: It becomes increasingly difficult to feel noble in my causes when my cause is to defend my charge from her own violent tendencies. |
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Cal Hurst Atlantic Legend


Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 8025 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Time is an interesting thing, as we all interpret what we are told differently. Let's say for instance, that it is said that one day on Earth is 4 days on Britannia. There are a few ways to interpret this.
1) We assume that Britannia and Earth cycle their sun and their planet rotates on its axis at the same rate, and the game accelerates this process into 4x speed for whatever reason. But in the case of aging, one Britannian "day" is equal to one Earth day, therefor speeding the aging process up by 4x compared to our real life time.
2) My personal favorite. We do not assume Britannia and Earth cycle their suns and their planet rotates on its axis at the same rate. Bare with me for a moment while I explain this. In 24 hours of Earth time, let's go easy and say we have 12 hours of Sun, 12 hours of Night, consecutively. However, on Britannia, we would have, in Earth time, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, all in one day. This means, in my theory, that the aging process isn't sped up at all. No one ages faster. Time does not travel faster. Quite simply, the planet rotates its sun and rotates on its axis faster, giving one "Earth day" 4 cycles of sun/night.
It's a lot less complicated to go with the first one, obviously. But meh. _________________
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Darrien Church Honored Member


Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 1810
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | 2) My personal favorite. We do not assume Britannia and Earth cycle their suns and their planet rotates on its axis at the same rate. Bare with me for a moment while I explain this. In 24 hours of Earth time, let's go easy and say we have 12 hours of Sun, 12 hours of Night, consecutively. However, on Britannia, we would have, in Earth time, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, all in one day. This means, in my theory, that the aging process isn't sped up at all. No one ages faster. Time does not travel faster. Quite simply, the planet rotates its sun and rotates on its axis faster, giving one "Earth day" 4 cycles of sun/night. |
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Cal Hurst Atlantic Legend


Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 8025 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Darrien Church wrote: | Quote: | 2) My personal favorite. We do not assume Britannia and Earth cycle their suns and their planet rotates on its axis at the same rate. Bare with me for a moment while I explain this. In 24 hours of Earth time, let's go easy and say we have 12 hours of Sun, 12 hours of Night, consecutively. However, on Britannia, we would have, in Earth time, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, 3 hours of Sun, 3 hours of Night, all in one day. This means, in my theory, that the aging process isn't sped up at all. No one ages faster. Time does not travel faster. Quite simply, the planet rotates its sun and rotates on its axis faster, giving one "Earth day" 4 cycles of sun/night. |
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Not really. The size of Britannia is obviously significantly smaller than Earth. So while it "cycles" 4 times faster, it doesn't necessarily spin as fast. For example, the velocity of the outermost layer of a small sphere will be significantly less than the velocity of the outermost layer of a large sphere. _________________
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Yasamin Lore Master

Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 1221 Location: Behind the laughter that lays within the shadows
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Cal Hurst wrote: | Not really. The size of Britannia is obviously significantly smaller than Earth. So while it "cycles" 4 times faster, it doesn't necessarily spin as fast. |
You know, then we'd have to adjust weight to factor in, because all those women who are supposedly five nine and 120 are extremely overweight! (smaller planet = less gravity pull) _________________ (4:45:41 PM) Jarem: It becomes increasingly difficult to feel noble in my causes when my cause is to defend my charge from her own violent tendencies. |
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Cal Hurst Atlantic Legend


Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 8025 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yasamin wrote: | Cal Hurst wrote: | Not really. The size of Britannia is obviously significantly smaller than Earth. So while it "cycles" 4 times faster, it doesn't necessarily spin as fast. |
You know, then we'd have to adjust weight to factor in, because all those women who are supposedly five nine and 120 are extremely overweight! (smaller planet = less gravity pull) |
I think it's safe to assume that the density for Earth and Britannia are equal in all theories. As for Malas... well... yeah. People should by flying off of that land mass. _________________
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Lord Fong Sage


Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 706 Location: Moonglow
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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