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Wolfe · Lore Keeper Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 898

Hello.

I just recently finished completing my tamer template. Needless to say, he may be in an rp-pvp situation at some point, and will need to use his pets.

What is the community rule on pets in rp-pvp? Are they completely outlawed?

Would it be accepted if I warned aggressors OOC in party chat that if they attack, that I will use my pets?

Just looking for some info, thanks.

Molly · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject:

It all depends on the war. This one going on with D|O they are ok to use. As in any war situation it is one death meaning if they kill your pet you can't go get another one.
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Mave Gerhart · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject:

Basically the general rule has been, in unplanned confrontation it is use what you have. In planned wars and battles it is whatever the GMs involved decide before hand.

I personally think that it is funny when someone picks a fight and then all of a sudden they have a pet on them instead of the easy fight they had pictured.
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Wolfe · Lore Keeper Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 898

Alright. I will make an effort to make possible opponents aware that I will be using pets. It will be obvious, however, since they will be with me at all times when conflict is possible (I.E. patrols, wars, etc..) and I do not use pet summoning balls.

Hopefully they will realize what they are getting in to and not complain if I use my pets.

Thanks.

Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis · Transcendent Spammer Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 5740

Now I wonder where pet summoning balls actually do fall; 'use what you have' sounds like it both disallows and allows pet summon balls at the same time.

Thoughts?

Mave Gerhart · Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:28 am Post subject:

I would assume they are allowed unless it is stated otherwise. There are many animals that do not have to be visible to be within calling distance.
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[01:48] Deathwisp: well I always rub the fuzzy part before I pull it off
[01:48] Mave: ...what?
[01:49] Deathwisp: you know, the fuzzy... nvm

Sara Delan · Sage Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Posts: 579

Tarothin Armunn · Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject:

Guys keep it simple and use actualy magic item in the game itself.

The Summoning balls are an actual game item and so it exists in the world. Just rp using one.

Grignag · Sage Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 500

On the other side of the coin, there are many situations (such as the recent Vesper battle) where use of gates and recall was forbidden. The Ball of Summoning is essentially an item that lets your pets recall.

I would say that if there is a situation where people could not recall/gate in, then a pet tamer should follow the same restrictions. Obviously, any pet they brought would be fair game. But saying that a tamer can just teleport in whatever they please is excessive. Mages and warriors bring what they need to battle, and are not permitted to leave in once the battle has begun (unless of course they are retreating, in which case they cannot come back). Tamers are no different.

The "it is an item in game, so you can use it" line doesn't really fly, as recall and gates are in game spells, too. Since there was an RP rationale that they were blocked, it should follow that Balls of Summoning would be likewise.

This, of course, does not preclude someone who is chilling in Sanctus and is suddenly beset by Orcs from bringing out his favorite dragon in a moments notice.
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Alessandra · Babbling Loony Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 2650

then you also come to the point of spellweavers... they technically have two lives with the gift of life... so... do they get to enter battle twice? afterall... it is an in game mechanic? right?
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Grignag · Sage Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 500

I would say no, as mages have that ability too. It's called ressurection. When you go down, you are down.

It is not so much the mechanics of the rez, or whether or not the spell is different from Ressurection RPly. It is simply a matter of abuse. I have neither the time nor inclination (Thank you Jack Nicholson) to go around and check if everyone on the opposing side is GM trained in Spellweaving, allowing them to effectively cast the spell. As of such, I would have no way of knowing who was actually using the spell, and who was just getting rezzed by any number of other ways, claiming they have spellweaving, and then just jumping back into battle. And yes, I do think people would do this. Scratch that. I KNOW people would do it. There are too many people who care only about winning. Or think that since they died in the first wave they deserve a second chance, just because.

Hypothetically I would be able to tell when they came back and started using Chivalry spells or something, but it would still cause trouble.
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Mave Gerhart · Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject:

The only way that allowing Gift of Life would work is if people were made to leave the battlefield in ghost form and not return for their bodies. Then deathrobed individuals would be free game because they would have to be GoL resses.

But then as Grig said, there would be one person who tried to slip a res in there or heaven forbid a noble sacrifice and bring back half their guild and then mucho arguing.

So no, GoL would not be a good idea.
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"If you have to explain why it makes RP sense, then odds are it doesn't" -Leshok (or his DM)

[01:48] Deathwisp: well I always rub the fuzzy part before I pull it off
[01:48] Mave: ...what?
[01:49] Deathwisp: you know, the fuzzy... nvm

Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis · Transcendent Spammer Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 5740

Gift of Life gives you a drobe, and yer wearing it as soon as you pop. Keep it on Very Happy

If I had a spellweaver in an RP war, I'd still use gift of life, but only so I don't have to run to a wandering healer, hah. Pop up, put shroud on, and evacuate the area.

Thomas Hunter · Sage Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 572

Quoted from the community standards....

Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis · Transcendent Spammer Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 5740

Always good to discuss rules again instead of just pasting them. Improvements are always possible.