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Lightbringer Alliance Proposal

The following proposal is a draft, and nothing more. All ideas and statues herein may be modified or changed based on the input of those who wish to be involved.

Purpose:

The purpose of this proposal is to unite all guilds who are considered to be lightbringers under one banner. I.E: Make everyone “green” to one another so that assistance may be given in wars, and to further facilitate roleplay and interaction for good-aligned characters on the Atlantic Shard. With this idea, we are not trying to recreate ARPC, FAR, or any other roleplayer clique. With this idea, we are trying to bridge the gaps between lightbringers in all cliques and sandboxes.

Possible Names:

Confederation of Light
Confederation of Virtue
Alliance of Light
Alliance of Virtue
Free Nations of Sosaria
<Insert Your Name Idea Here>

Administration:

The administration of the alliance will be conducted through a representative council. One representative per involved guild will have a voting seat on the council. The council will take the same approach as the U.S. Senate. Representation is not based on membership size, and all votes are equal. One guild will be chosen to administer the in game mechanics of the alliance.

Offices:

All officers will be elected to a 6 month term by a 70% vote. If many nominees are running for office, there will be runoff elections until a 70% vote is achieved. In the event of a tie, additional time will be given for campaigning and another election will occur. The current officeholder will retain the position until the election is completed.

Lord/Lady Minister

The Council will be headed by the Lord/Lady Minister (open to ideas for this title). The Minister is elected to office by a 70% vote of the Council Members. The Minister is not a commander, merely a facilitator and coordinator for meetings, proposals, and administrative actions. An election for Minister will be conducted every 6 months. There are no limits on terms the Minister may serve.

Lord/Lady Commander

The Commander is responsible for the planning of military operations, coordination with Generals/Commanders from involved guilds. The Commander only has power when the Alliance is working together in a military operation. The Commander is elected to a 6 month term by a 70% majority vote. There are no term limits.

Steward:

The steward is a permanent position. This official will administer the in game mechanics of the UO alliance system. If the member guilds decide to do so, the steward will create a dummy guild to head the alliance. the steward has absolutely no power, and must adhere to the decisions of the council.

Alliances within the Alliance:

It should be known that being a part of this alliance does not invalidate prior institutions. For example: Sanctus and her vassals would be an individual entity within the alliance. The Regency and its member guilds would still be the Regency, Royal Court of Light will still be the Royal Court, etc etc. This alliance has ABSOLUTELY NO power or sovereignty over it’s member guilds/alliances. It will be a confederation of volunteer guilds working together for a common cause, not a government body. Think of this as the United Nations of Light.

Legislation:

War proposals, acceptance/removal of guilds in the alliance, impeachment of officers, constitutional amendments, etc etc, will be determined by 70% vote.

Probationary Period:

Once the alliance has been established, new guilds will be given a probationary period of two months before they are given a voting seat on the council.

Emancipation:

Involved guilds may remove themselves from the alliance at any time, with no negative repercussions.

Ruleset:

The Alliance guilds will operate based on the current (hopefully soon revised) Atlantic Roleplay PvP Ruleset.

Conclusion “Talon’s Notes”:

Many of you may be asking yourselves, “Why do we need yet another large body of roleplayers out there?”

The answer to that question can be answered by taking into account the evil based guilds in our community. They have all begun working together under one umbrella alliance, cooperatively, to further their style of RP in the community. A year ago, we had virtually no evil guilds to speak of…now they are flourish thanks to their efforts.

99.9999999999999999% of the drama and foolishness in the community resides squarely in the lightbringer camp. There is more childishness, isolation, division, and pure foolishness in this camp than anywhere else in the community. I am not innocent of it by any means. I myself am either hated or loved, there is little in between. I am guilty of a great deal of the childishness, division, and pure foolishness mentioned above.

This is perhaps a last ditch effort to bring the community back together. By forming this council and working with the Shadow Conclave (evil guild Umbrella Alliance), we can set standards of conduct and further RP on this shard. Envision the huge events of old reborn in a new era.

Let’s put the past behind and work together for a brighter future.

Please respond with your input and interest (for this who may wish to take part).

If there is enough interest, we will have a meeting to refine the constitution, decide on a name, nominate officers, and accept member guilds.
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Lord Protector of Malas

Molly · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:

Now that I have that off my chest I will say that I like the idea and it is worth looking at. I have not had a chance to thorougly look it over but if I see any suggestions that I would make I will add them later on.

Name Suggestion: Confederate Gardians of Light

And I really like the Steward idea very much.
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Talon Skyfire · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject:

Like I said, its a draft. Now is the time for people to give their input and express their interest.
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Tay Thormear · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject:

I think it's a solid idea. Like Talon said, look what it's done for the evil community. ZOG and Orc havent really had alot of numbers, but with The Damned and Umbra with them..they have more power. This allows for all four guilds to find recruits as well as actually have a forceful hand IG. It rises the morale and builds "Hope"

In order for this to work though, ALOT of people with alot of "beef" would have to put rubbish aside. "The Regency think their better...those SoB's" "Mollys a controller and likes to pull poop." "Talons.....Talon." All that has to be pushed off to the side. In order to strengthen everyone and build everything up..we have to push threw everything.

Im sure the rubble from the Twin Towers didn't clean itself up. Im sure amongst those people working -together- some of them didnt like eachother. No matter what though, people work together to be stronger.

Tai Kwan Leap · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject:

If done properly, this could work.

I would be willing to give what input I have to help make this happen. I like this idea better than the HoA one, since I was not around for that.

As for the name, in my humble opinion the term virtue makes it sound far too much like we are all paladins. We are not. However, for one reason or the other, those of us that will be fighting this evil, are considered Light Bringers.

We would work better together united than we ever will divided.

I have made mistakes and caused problems that were unnecessary. I think that admitting that we have made mistakes in the past and that we are trying to avoid those same by putting egos, and whipping posts aside we might be on the right path.
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Ditto Armunn · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject:

If 2 or even 3 Alliances were out there then that would be the type of "seperation" I could understand and think would actually benefit the entire community for roleplaying purposes.
One for Lightbringers
One for Evil/Darkness
& maybe One for the more Neutrals (or who work both sides)

So, in essence, your idea is a step to that direction. And frankly, if everyone can put ooc crap aside, it's a workable idea no matter who it came from that could bring us all together. Or at least most.

Personally, it would be a solution to my problem, if we did the 2 or 3 Alliances as above.

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Shorter version to my post = GREAT IDEA in my opinion.
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Talon Skyfire · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject:

Thanks Ditto.

Also thanks to others for not turning this into DRAMAGEDDON.

Keep the input coming please.
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Bailos · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject:

If I may offer my two cents. Being a long-time observer of the community it is my opinion that things, such as the very well written draft that Talon has provided, do not happen for one core reason that is never fully named: Loss of Control. This concept is often discussed but in terms of "isolationist" and "sandbox". It is not the same. Let's just boil it down.

No one is willing to submit to anyone else anymore. When Azalin ran OES, there was no question who was Alpha Dog IG and that went a long ways towards keeping things together. There were issues, but they do not reflect this central point so I will not discuss them.

My point is, the community used to have a sense where organizations meant something. People joined shards just because of certain guilds, hoping to follow and learn under them. People were willing to allow themselves to be absorbed in an RP synergy-soup.

I dont know why people wont do that anymore...Whether it's the culture we live in, or perhaps the great leaders are too few and far between or maybe if simply no one cares enough anymore.

I urge and implore all guilds, guild leaders, guild members and other free lance folk to reconsider their stances. Reconsider where they sit and entertain the thought of surrendering your "absolute" control over whatever environment you have, and allow yourselves to be a part of something great. A part, not the be all and end all. A novel concept, yes?

I support this rallying cry for the community 100%. No, not just lightbringers, everyone.

Toni McStravick · Seasoned Veteran Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 467

I must agree that if people can put their differences aside, and we all all claim to be the bigger person to do this, this may just work well. Understandable there are many who have harsh feelings, but ya know what...at this point who cares....we are all here to have fun. The way I see it if these evil creature being peoples can bury their differences to create an alliance with one goal, then why can't be the lightbringers do the same?

As for a name Talon, think I just fried my last brain cell thinking up that response...If I think of something later I'll post it.

*now back to my regularly programmed coffee to gain more brain cells*
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Greyskull · Seasoned Veteran Joined: 31 Dec 2003 Posts: 386

Sanctus is the big dog in the yard.

Sanctus leadership isnt the most popular right now due to OCC situations.

These situations NEED to be fixed before something like this should be attempted. If not it wont last a week... this means you Talon.

Those having issues (and those who dont) with Sanctus leadership NEED to think outside of their own guilds and situations before this will work... this means you Molly and all Regency and FAR guilds

FAR and Regency guilds who have issues with people not in their little sandboxes need to read and re-read the sentence above.

names....

"Confederation" sounds too redneck. "Alliance" sounds too WoWish. Keep it simple and use a name for what you're truely defending

Council of Light and Virtue

Toni McStravick · Seasoned Veteran Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 467

I like that name Greyskull
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Lady LaBelle · Adventurer Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 84

I see no correlation between being green to every good guild and "bringing the community back together". I do however see the relevance to being green to everyone as I saw relevance to being orange to everyone; it eases certain, not all or even most interactions, but some interactions are enhanced by such mechanics.

My questions are...Is this an IC alliance?
Will this be cordially presented IC to Role Players?
If this is an OOc alliance, why the need for positions or
or councils, just click and add your alliances if
you so choose, or do not?

Sadira Reflov · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject:

I like the idea. Though grant it I do not have a guild that I run...not sure with the steward idea...will that be something that is voted on by all those involved? If so..that is cool...cause the steward seems like a position that should be for someone that all guilds alligned trust and like. But as a...err...umm yeah..forget what I was going to say....but I am sure the HOuse of Mreal would be interested in it. That is all...ohh btw..I like the name that Greyskull gave too. Yes I know I know..another Edit CASS?!!!! anyeays..err anyways..was thinking maybe sticky this for about a week..just so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle in case noone responds for a day or such.
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Talon Skyfire · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject:

It will be an IC alliance.
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Lord Protector of Malas

Lady LaBelle · Adventurer Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 84

--Will this be cordially presented IC to Role Players? --
Then the answer to this question would be yes? Yes?
Why the need for any forum discussions? IC is just that.
Many Role Players, such as myself prefer to differentiate.
Also, by presenting such a proposal IC you create interaction and force people to respond in an IC manner. Granted your membership may be less, but it could grow with reputation, IC. Lastly, myself included, would need such IC representation, and reputation with which to base a decision on, as it is now there would be no reason for such an alliance for some characters.