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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:51 am Post subject: Reply with quote
That is an elaborate analogy that works perfectly. A character in a play. Unfortunately not all of us are great actors, but everyone can learn. The problem shows itself when someone thinks they know it all already. They are beyond help unless someone knocks them off the high horse... As it was said earlier, that is why 99% of the ones that need the RP class don't go to them (not won't, DON'T, or more specifically 'didn't'... I ran the classes and the only ones that showed were the ones that didn't need it much, or wanted to attend the speciality RP classes (my pally one, admoreth's necro one)). What is too bad for Atl is when those people stay and everyone else goes because of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: Reply with quote
No one gets RP down perfectly. I'm content with trying to RP though. :>

I personally, don't think it’s even possible to portray the amount of human (or character) depth into a character that a normal person would without completely empathizing with your character. However, by doing that you would have to cognitively associate with them. That would lead to thinking as your character and taking conflict aimed at him as conflict aimed at you. ;o
(Most people who take rubbish ooc don't take it because they do this, its usually just that they think that it’s aimed at them.)

Mainly what I'm talking about is specific reactions to situations while under extreme duress.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: Reply with quote
If you haven't been there, there is no way to know. But you can wing it better, is the argument I believe.

Alot of people don't respond with any realism, as Bailos claimed, in that their characters are unmovable girders of courage and valor. It doesn't make sense.

And to relate to your character, you don't have to take everything personally. I have never taken an attack on my characters as a personal attack. And if that is the case it can happen anyway. People who play their characters have written their characters, and if something about their character is attacked, it is easy for them to take it as an insult. The main point of my rant was, dissassociate and abject, but in a way that you can step back and analyze and interpret your own characters. From there, you can more effectively play your character.

And as you mention acting is a skill... it -is- learned and people do get better at it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
Agreed ;o
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: *young blood* mmm tasty... *grins* Reply with quote
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Two-thirds (or better) of the young-blood roleplayers I come across totally fail at giving the proper amount of emotion from their characters.


I agree that as a whole, that new and old rpers dont show enough emotion.

I think that with *young-blood rpers* it is actually more forgiveable and just pulling them aside and addressing the situation at the time would probably be a constructive way to deal with it.

I think that more experienced rpers should be more concerned with teaching their new-bloods simple things like dont attack an orange just because they are orange...

Then after that is perfected help guide and mold their rp into something good.

I think it is unfair to just say two-thirds of what you have come across are bad. I am wondering how many you have come across as a whole? There are alot of *young-blood rpers* in some of the guilds I am in and they rock, they are eager to learn, nervous to emote but willing to try. I would never at this stage expect them to be comfortable enough with thier characters to have perfected their rp.

As for more experienced rpers, well they are rarely afraid of anything when they should be too...

I would ask that when you speak of *young blood rpers* that you recall what it was like when you were new, so many years ago.

I am in limbo somewhere, I would not say I am new but I would not say I am experienced, and I make mistakes all the time. It is my willingness to learn and the strong support I have recieved from more experienced rpers like Ceinwyn and Barl, just to name a few, that make me a better rper. Certainly not a post on a board, most of this stuff I had figured out for myself or been told prior to ever coming to the boards.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
Orion wrote:
No one gets RP down perfectly. I'm content with trying to RP though. :>

I personally, don't think it’s even possible to portray the amount of human (or character) depth into a character that a normal person would without completely empathizing with your character. However, by doing that you would have to cognitively associate with them. That would lead to thinking as your character and taking conflict aimed at him as conflict aimed at you. ;o


Not nessicarily. There is a happy middleground. It is extremely difficult to act in a play, and that is more work than fun, and we ARE here to have fun. The only thing you can't do is be an butthole just because its fun for you. Happy middleground, thats all I'm saying. I'm too tired to put it into words.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
My post was really just another way of saying: nobody is perfect (or even can be). ;o
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
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As for more experienced rpers, well they are rarely afraid of anything when they should be too...


I would like to point out that I believe this post was directed at certain of those. Unfortunately, there is the ego to deal with, as Mith says. Many people get offended ooc if something happens to their character ic, in some situations.

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The problem in roleplay games is that everyone has been subject to books and video games, COUNTLESS times, where you are the hero, main character, main focus, super rare bloodline that the bad guys want, center of attention, extrordinary powers, absolutely fearless, and key thing: NEVER LOSES.


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Every human being alive has a mental image of themself, perfect, that they would love to be. Many times that persona is manifested as one of your roleplay characters on Atlantic, and thus, you make too deep a connection with it, and you get too upset if someone is about to outsmart 'the perfect you', thus your character is as intelligent as you are (no seperation from OOC/IC) and thus you get pissed if The Perfect You is tricked or outsmarted because you take it as a personal insult.


I just wanted to repeat Mithaniel because I want to drill it into the heads of everyone that is reading this.

Plus, he tucked me in once. Mithaniel rocks!
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