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Tinkerbelle · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject:

This is all just totally confusing to me. All I know of factions is that I've heard of them. That is it. So, how do these changes affect us non-faction people? We still get the invasion? Am I totally unsafe now when I have to go to towns to buy reagents. It is bad enough that reds still pop into Papua and Skara Brae and I have to skip them. Sounds like I'm going to be sequestored to my home, assuming that they don't pop in at my home. Sounds like they will only be in the cities. This is not wonderful news for a crafter/vendor type person.

The only thing I like is that rocks and sand will stack. Now I don't have to decicate a house to them. I wish they would change how apples and grapes are made. It is rediculous that you have to use one bottle per apple or grape. Bottles have gone up so high in price that I'm going to have to start charge 3 - 4 times higher a price just so I can make a few pieces of gold. They either need to change how bottles are priced or fix how enchanted apples and grapes of wrath are made. OK, I'm done ranting.

Nh'bdy · Seasoned Veteran Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 308

Factions, in my eyes, are bad for RP as they push PvP before RP. No one is going to stop to parlay or comment on your most recent hateful actions to splatter you across a few tiles. And entire guilds shifting to factions? What of crafters who will be splattered across a few tiles? I'm not a fan of further buffing the artifacts even further, nor am I a fan of alt-kill farming. I believe the community needs to state in a timely manner their ideals on this.
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Cal Hurst · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject:

Doireann · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject:

Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis · Transcendent Spammer Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 5740

The ARPC uses Ultima Online as its roleplay medium. I learned long ago that nitpicking which pieces of UO you want to utilize, which you want to use in an altered form, and which you want to ignore entirely just doesn't work, because nobody'll agree in it. Take full advantage of what it offers you. Anything else is asking for a mess.

Factions is one of those systems you should take avantage of and make it into something wonderful for roleplay. It isn't pushing PvP over RP, it is what you make out of it, plain and simple.

Morio_Kitsune · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:16 am Post subject:

the rp on eur is very restricted and ppl comform to them... *shrugs*

as for the apples and grapes stacking that would be great, with everything I have to carry just so morio can at lest servive its bad having apples and grapes dotted around in my pack.

with the factions thin I am in two minds I mean I am already in a faction on my mains account but that's on eur.... can you be in different factions if you play multiple shards?

btw Shadowlords rule!
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Cal Hurst · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:24 am Post subject:

I believe the rule is:

1 faction per account per shard
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Jonathan Strathmore · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:36 am Post subject:

Cal Hurst · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject:

Jonathan Strathmore · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject:

Aaah. So same bull-restriction, just more characters now. Gotcha.

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Har'aak Tor · Adventurer Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 48

Personally I love the changes they are making for factions it gives new players a chance to get high end items. Arties are the heart of any pvp suit and they are all expensive some more than others. Its a bit unfair in my opinion to ask a new player who wants to be good at pvp to hack out the 60+ million it takes to make a halfway decent pvp suit. With the new system the most expensive of the arties only cost's 4,000 silver it takes some farming, 20 silver I think per monster, but thats within everyones capabilities.
No longer will people have to buy huge amounts of in game gold just to be competetive, for which my wallet rejoices! Very Happy

Now the thing that upsets me is the fact that once again they give good guys absolutely no incentive. If the bad guys take a towns sigil that town in trammel will be attacked by monsters that are going to be dropping awesome loot which will make everyone happy. However if the good guys keep the sigils nothing happens. They did the same thing with Magencia's invasion, hell most of the people were leading the light daemons around letting them blow apart the buildings.

As far as factions and rp are concerned I do see some problems there the largest is the fact that if two warred guilds are in opposing factions and kill each other in trammel they still go into stat loss. Now this may have been fixed in the last month or two but thats how it use to be when we were in factions on Great Lakes. Also opposing factions cannot be in the same party which will make communication more difficult.

If there are a lot of rp guilds wanting to join factions I would suggest all the rpers join the same faction that way we can avoid stat loss when we fight or spar and avoid having to fight each other in faction battles.

Ronin · Journeyman Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 168

Cal Hurst · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject:

You will be able to party with opposing faction.
As far as killing in trammel and stat loss, I'd imagine that isn't so as factions are pretty much turned off in Trammel. Look at the faction monsters, for instance. I can't say for sure, though.
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coremon · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject:

you dont receive faction stat loss for dying in trammel as factions are only in fel, even if the guild that kills you is in factions as well