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Valin Arkadis Visitor
Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 18
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: RP Merc guild? |
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I havent really roleplayed on Atlantic much for about a year now but am considering returning to Roleplaying on the shard and starting a Merc guild. Was wondering what everyone thought about having a rp guild like this in the community? And also if anyone would be interested in putting a character in the guild? All comments and creative ideas welcomed and if anyone would be itnerested in joining a guild like this I can be reached by Icq at 437702149.. the basic Idea of the guild would be guild for hire say as guards or an army if needed. |
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Cal Hurst Atlantic Legend


Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 8025 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Merc guilds are always fun. I say do it. But if you get good at PvP, or if you are good at PvP, you may face hardships. _________________
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Darrien Church Honored Member


Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 1810
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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We've had them in the past, some did well others did not.
I think the amount of RP they can produce is promising, they bring a good and realistic element to game. BKD for example headed by Arlin I was always very fond of while I myself never was a member.
The problem arises when the RP element comes secondary to the PvP element, things have to be controlled and rules have to be put into place and observed but I'd like to see a decent Merc. Company around the current scene. |
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Bailos Grand Inquisitor


Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 4613 Location: The Frozen Wastes
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Mercenary companies are wonderful but there becomes one fatal flaw...
This might hurt your head so brace...
By standing for not standing for anything, they really do stand for nothing.
So what did I just say? Since mercenary guilds are based on being for hire and not caring about anything else but money, they lose a lot of initial depth in that they have no real unique gimmick or creed. This can be overcome with quite a bit of work...but its my theory as to why there are no long lasting Mercenary guilds.
Something to think about. |
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Lucian Guest
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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To put into Lamens terms from what Bailos said...People who don't care who they kill/fight/maim/pillage, whatever. The person who hired you yesterday could be the person you're fighting today. Poeple without a set of values and morals.
Reference : Kujas Alignment Post
IMO, a Merc guild would either be Pure Neutral "Undecided", or Chaotic Neutral.
I was in a merc guild, but the guildleader (Best friend irl), isn't exactly...Someone who follows through with things, so it kind of just fell apart. Merc guilds are fun, but the problem is finding people who hire you, since PvP(Since I was last in the "scene"), is taboo. But then again, mercenaries don't exactly have work to do everyday. They do have alot of sitting around time. |
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Tay Thormear Lore Master

Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1219 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Ya...alot of it is based on pvp. cause your always fighter (usually..unless your transporting somethin)...but alot of guilds in this community will shun you or decide not to rp with you if you consistantly win.
If you can find a way to rp alot as a merc and less pvp..and fit pvp in every once in a while..than some people should be happy..
Lemme know what your plans are.
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Lucian Guest
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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But, at the same time, some may be open to you. I was just goin through the sage tower, and came across Evinyatars RP post
If you're new the the community, and thinking of starting a guild or helping create one, thats a good set of ideas to be constantly thinking about. I know I don't RP anymore, but that doesnt mean my opinions invalid!
Edit: The post by Beleth mentioned in Evins post is Here |
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NOT Malorn Certifiable

Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 1920 Location: Everywhere
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Bailos wrote: | Mercenary companies are wonderful but there becomes one fatal flaw...
This might hurt your head so brace...
By standing for not standing for anything, they really do stand for nothing.
So what did I just say? Since mercenary guilds are based on being for hire and not caring about anything else but money, they lose a lot of initial depth in that they have no real unique gimmick or creed. This can be overcome with quite a bit of work...but its my theory as to why there are no long lasting Mercenary guilds.
Something to think about. |
This is very true. I've personally tried this with Rosar (Should anyone remember him and our Consortium Militaris). Anyway, We had it working not so terribly bad with a hint of good. Get in touch with me. I'll see if I can't help you, and I might have a character for you in the future. (I LOVE the merc idea, btw. One of my favorties I have ever tried).
ICQ 325-123-408 or Email at SicoticKlown@yahoo.com Love to be of service. |
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Arlin Slightly Crazed

Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 1464
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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The Black Dogs can never be copied. There has never been a better group of mercenary roleplayers and PvPers on Atlantic.
However, if you are serious, PM me. I can tell you what made the guild great, and what nonsense you will face. _________________ As the fire fades to night, remember always the ember that started it all. |
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Beleth Lore Keeper


Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 848
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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The Black Dogs were nothing special.
And there leader was pathetic. _________________
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Arlin Slightly Crazed

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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Beleth wrote: | The Black Dogs were nothing special.
And there leader was pathetic. |
You just envied my slave womens. _________________ As the fire fades to night, remember always the ember that started it all. |
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NOT Malorn Certifiable

Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 1920 Location: Everywhere
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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In reference to what Lucian said on the alignments... Mercenarcies can pull of Nuetral Evil too... That would be the entire basis of their motives is personal gain. I think that is the most fitting, actually. |
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Murdoc Lore Keeper

Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 857
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Merc Guilds have always been great ideas. But any guild who's focus revolves around fighting just gets $hit on by people. There are alot of examples in history of awesome guilds that disappeared cause all they got was $hit from a good majority of the community. _________________
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Tay Thormear Lore Master

Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1219 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Murdoc wrote: | Merc Guilds have always been great ideas. But any guild who's focus revolves around fighting just gets $hit on by people. There are alot of examples in history of awesome guilds that disappeared cause all they got was $hit from a good majority of the community. |
Duuude icq me..282201710 |
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Valin Arkadis Visitor
Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Welp I just wanted to drop in give an update for everyone that might have an interest in this idea. It seems RL life and of comittments will keep me from getting an RP merc guild off the ground right now so for now me running on is on hold but if someone wants to take up the idea and run with it Im all for it and would join the guild as well but afraid I'll only be able to be in UO one or two day at a time for the forseeable future. So just giving everyone a heads up on whats going on and if anyone wants to make a Merc guild I wish them the best of luck and give me a hollar if you do, hopefully down the road I'll get a chance to revisit this and actually get it rolling once my time frees up. |
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